Robert Helenius vs Tyson Fury?

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  1. Decker

    Decker Boxing Addict Full Member

    Jul 7, 2007
    Just stop, Robert has a much better resume and is >> than Price.

    I think Fury-Helenius could be interesting but would clearly favor Fury. Helenius wasted much of his prime w/ injuries.
  2. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Jul 4, 2014
    **** fight. fury makes no money, and does nothing for his legacy. Glad Helenius is having a bit of success, but he's to in Fury's class.
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  3. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Oct 5, 2009
    I like that helenius has made a turn around but i don't think this is the fight

    If fury is as fat and hittable as he was last time its probably a good fight
  4. Safin

    Safin Boxing Addict Full Member

    Aug 3, 2019
    Such embarrassingly bad logic - and contradicting the many times you have claimed Fury to be shorter than his own (incorrect) claim. Dillian Whyte is listed at 6'4'', which is also clearly inaccurate and also above his own actual claim of 6'3'' (also wrong).

    You definitely have multiple-personality disorder.
  5. jaytxxl

    jaytxxl Well-Known Member Full Member

    Mar 1, 2010
    Both guys are such wildcards enough to where Helenius could upset Fury tbh. Fury when facing a top 2-3 opponent brings his A game but otherwise he fights down to his competition. Helenius is hit or miss come fight night where he always performs better when it’s not expected. Fury wouldn’t have that significant size advantage he’s used to having also so leaning on Helenius would trouble Helenius as much as it did Wilder.
  6. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

    Nov 24, 2005
    Price would have been brutally crushed by Kownacki.

    Kownacki was better than Erkan Teper.
  7. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

    Nov 24, 2005
    Helenius has not much chance against Fury at all, even allowing for the very real possibility that Fury is clear past his best now.
  8. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

    Jul 29, 2018

    Helenius was on the back foot the entire fight and didn't want to engage (like he hasn't done before to nnear that extent) with Whyte all fight and lost every round. You could criticise Whyte for not effectively cutting of the ring that as he should have
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  9. Max Thunder

    Max Thunder Useless Dosser Full Member

    Apr 25, 2017
    Helenius v Whyte was a textbook example of a fighter who showed up only for a paycheck. Either take a dive or do nothing. Dullian wouldn't last three rounds against the current Sugar Robert Helenius 5.0.
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  10. Outboxxer

    Outboxxer New Member Full Member

    Dec 25, 2021
    Helenius is already starting his training camp. My translation from Finnish press:


    Robert Helenius wants to face Tyson Fury, even without a title in play. Helenius' manager told Yle Sport how close to realization the fight is.

    Heavyweight boxer Robert Helenius' team believes that the fight with superstar Tyson Fury is coming together. Thus Åland Island based Helenius, 38, is beginning his training camp for the match even though there is no contract in place.

    - There has been a lot of negotiations. In this situation with Covid, Robert will begin his training camp in February, just in case. That's a must. It cannot be left to chance. If there's a possibility to get the match, we have already a camp in place. There is no contract yet, manager of Helenius, Markus Sundman, told Yle Sport.

    According to Sundman the fight between Fury and Dillian Whyte seems unlikely. This is playing into Robert's hands.

    - It's very unclear whether Whyte will come down in price against Fury, because the negotiations are so far from another. Robert is the first one in line, that's what I believe.

    "I'm ready"

    It's crucial that Fury-matchup would not have World title status behind it. So Fury would be by far his toughest opponent to date, but winning would not bring the Finn his long-awaited title belt.

    - It does not bother me, even though there's no World title in play. I'm ready. I have been doing this for so long. I've had my focus on the World title match for the last 10 years, Helenius states.

    The alternative route for Helenius would be to wait for the possible WBA World title. At the moment it seems that current title holder Oleksandr Usyk will face Anthony Joshua in a rematch.

    - If Joshua takes on Usyk, it's very hard for me to intervent. I will do everything I can to make the Fury fight happen and I am ready for it, says Helenius.

    "Economic side a big factor"

    Last October Helenius beat Adam Kownacki and earned estimated half million euros. Manager Sundman reveals that facing Fury would bring him much more.

    - It's a seven figures payday we're talking here. Robert has two very significant wins in US, and we are in a good position. Robert can be sold for big arenas.

    Helenius emphasizes that money plays a big role.

    - Economic side is huge. I was for 19 months without a match, and had zero income during that period. My previous fight brought good money, so now I can concentrate fully into my training.

    Helenius tells he has sparred with Fury already back in the 2010s when he was on Team Sauerland. Helenius is two metres, Fury even taller.

    - It was well-matched sparring. I lived in Germany back then and he was starting his pro career. He came to us for sparring. I was also sparring him for 4 weeks when he was about to face Klitschko for the second time. I know how he fights.

    Markus sundman, what would it mean to win Tyson Fury?

    - If he wins Fury, he would become the King of the Hill. And everybody would be lined behind him.

    What if he'll lose?

    - That depends how he loses. In boxing you cannot even think about a loss.

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  11. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

    Jul 29, 2018
    It's was more of case that Helenius not wanting to do with Whytes power.

    It was only 4 fights ago Helenius was KOed by Washington.
  12. Max Thunder

    Max Thunder Useless Dosser Full Member

    Apr 25, 2017
    It was more of a case being a fight taken on 2-week notice with no preparation because the money was too tempting. It is the most uncharacteristic Helenius fight, show me another one where he has his opponent hurt and does nothing except smile like an idiot.

    As I recall Whyte has fought a big puncher three times and was knocked out cold in two of them.
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  13. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

    Jul 29, 2018
    AJ, Povetkin x 2, Chisora and Rivas all big punchers that are all better boxers than Helenius (in particular AJ and Povetkin many levels above him).
  14. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Prayed for Shadow,Waste of time,Still a nincompoop Full Member

    Mar 17, 2018
    Chisora is a better "boxer"?
  15. Aydamn

    Aydamn Whyte beats Fury on 23/04 (predicted 15/04/2022) Full Member

    Jul 31, 2018
    There is no logic involved here. We’re stating listed and actual heights for boxers.

    Whyte has claimed 6’3.5. Fury has claimed 6’9.

    I claim Safin to be 4’9. 16 years of age. With napoleon complex.