Robert James Brant Vs. Ryōta Murata II

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by IntentionalButt, Jun 30, 2019.

Bravo Man or The Samurai?

Poll closed Jul 12, 2019.
  1. Brant on points

  2. Brant by stoppage

  3. Draw

  4. Murata on points

  5. Murata by stoppage

  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Tyler went away. Tyler's gone. Staff Member

    Nov 30, 2006
    WBA middleweight title at stake, the second defense of Brant in a rematch taking place in the former champ's backyard.

    Unfortunately this is the next major event on the boxing calendar, skipping ahead nearly a fortnight. The only remotely meaningful blips until then are the card in Kazakhstan this Saturday (featuring Nordine Oubaali vs. Arthur Villanueva for the WBC bantamweight title) and next Thursday's show in Rome (with Fabio Turchi defending his WBC International cruiserweight title against Tommy McCarthy)...but really, nothing all that worthwhile for two weeks. :shakehead:

    This will be a nice way to end the drought. Brant has made a credible titlist of himself with a respectable defense over Khasan Baysangurov, while Murata has just languished on the shelf in the nine months since losing the belt. To repeat his shock upset at the ODION Arena in Osaka would be the ultimate confirmation of the American's reign being no fluke - while for Ryōta, this represents a second opportunity for personal redemption in the saga of this particular championship (after losing controversially to Hassan N'Dam N'Jikam for the vacant strap in 2017, and then stopping him in an immediate rematch).
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  2. f1ght3rz

    f1ght3rz KABOOM! Full Member

    Jan 31, 2018
    I can't see Murata making enough adjustments at this stage of his career to beat Brant who really dominated him in the first fight. Even with the home soil advantage i would pick Brant by UD.
  3. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Tyler went away. Tyler's gone. Staff Member

    Nov 30, 2006
    Yeah, this isn't a HNN type of situation; the first match wasn't anywhere near as controversial as the one against the Cameroonian-Frenchman, and Brant doesn't seem to possess that kind of vulnerability to a heavy-handed pressure fighter like Murata.
  4. TheMotorCityCobra

    TheMotorCityCobra Member Full Member

    Jun 2, 2018
    Brandt is just so active for a MW and he moves well. He threw over 1200 punches in the 1st fight. Murata just couldn't do anything, he's kind of plodding and Brandt just kept punching and moving from round 1 to 12. I was surprised how one sided the fight was. Murata seems to need a guy that's fairly stationary where he can just walk forward and throw big shots. I've always thought he and Lemieux would be a really fun fight. It's a shame David can't make 160, because he's a midget at 168.
  5. aaalbert

    aaalbert Boxing Addict Full Member

    Jan 15, 2015
    Love Murata but can’t see him pulling this one off. He would have to drastically change his game plan and be a bit more active in the ring for it to be somewhat competitive. He does seem more focused now though so anything can happen I guess.
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  6. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Sep 8, 2010
    Was very disappointed in Murata when they fought as I didn't appreciate how one dimensional he was and how solid Brant is. Didn't see it coming. And I don't see anything that should change the outcome.
  7. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Tyler went away. Tyler's gone. Staff Member

    Nov 30, 2006
    It would be different if Murata had made significant improvements between HNN I & II so as to remove all doubt...but he didn't, just very minor ones that proved to be all he needed.
  8. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Apr 30, 2006
    While it seems like it should just be a repeat of the first fight, I wouldn't count out Murata again just yet. He's had 9 months to prepare and focus purely on getting revenge on Brant and, while he definitely got outhustled the first go around, he knows what's coming this time. Brant performing like that took most boxing people by surprise, and I'm sure Murata was one of them. Rob's not sneaking up on anyone this time around.

    Does that mean Murata'll win? Not necessarily, but I could see it. Regardless, I expect a much closer fight this time around. I see more room for improvement from his perspective than for Brant, who really did fight a fine fight the first go around. If it's just a repeat (or worse) of the first fight, that's pretty much a career ender for him...
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  9. N17

    N17 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Feb 16, 2013
    Brant wins fairly comfortably in my opinion.

    As said above, I can't see what Murata can do differently this time, he might try something new though but at this stage of his career and his recent form I just can't see him doing something that dramatic.

    You never know, Brant might take his eye off the ball so to speak, he might get a little over confident, being away from home might cause him some upset.. I think that's about Murata's best chance and that all depends on Brant and not him.
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  10. Serge

    Serge Gothic Gypsy Gangster Staff Member

    Jul 21, 2009
    Hard to see what Murata can do to gain revenge short of catching Brant with something big and taking him out. Brant is just all wrong for him and way too busy. Murata can punch though so I wouldn't completely rule out his chances of landing the bomb.
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  11. JacK Rauber

    JacK Rauber Full Member

    Oct 20, 2013
    Was shocked at how poor Murata's defense was. He seemed unable to adjust to Brant's movement. Murata can win the rematch ONLY if he tightens his defense significantly and is less plodding. He seemed too content on showing Brant that he could take his punches without countering in any meaningful way. Murata must counter effectively. If Murata does these things I could see him stopping Brant.
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  12. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Sep 29, 2012
    Maybe it's just blind hope and optimism but I think Murata grinds out a win this time around. Had Brant winning the first clearly obviously but not as wide as some did.
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  13. vast

    vast Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Nov 27, 2010
    Brant slaps him around again.
  14. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia #IrrationalGarcia Full Member

    Feb 13, 2014
    Suspect it goes the same way. Murata is unlikely to change it up at this stage.

    I was really impressed by Brant in that fight though. Didn't think he had it in him. Murata, ok sure he isn't amazing but is a solid enough fighter.
  15. Badbot

    Badbot Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Apr 17, 2011
    I don't know.
    The problems Murata had were plentiful, but also easily fixable.
    Murata likes to work behind that high guard of his. Which means little head movement and only attacking after the opponents has finished their offense. The issue here is that Brant's high work rate kept Murata stuck in that high guard. Brant's biggest weapon being the jab, which he would alternate from a single jab to a triple, a left hook or a body jab.
    A simple step back could easily disrupt that rhythm of Brant's lead hand. Of course Murata can't rely on a single move for 12 rounds so a little more creativity must be applied. Some head movement would be a nice touch.

    The second big problem Murata faces is the footwork. Brant was always moving off the line. Constantly on the defensive. All Murata did was follow him along. Brant had footwork and Murata had none. A small step to either side would give Murata a lot of room to work.
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