Roberto Duran vs Floyd Mayweather Jr

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  1. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Focus. The question was consistency. Is 72-1, less, or more, consistent than 47-0. I would argue more.
     
  2. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I can't see Mayweather winning any of these fights, with the possible exception of Benetiz and even then I think he'd loose to him.

    He sure as hell isn't beating SRL, Hagler, or Hearns. I'm not sure why you think Floyd would beat perhaps the 2nd greatest w.w. of all time (SRL), and/or a top 10 w.w. (Hearns) with perhaps the most power and longest reach in the divisions history, or a top 5 middle all time middleweight (Hagler) or even the youngest guy to win a title and the youngest to win three titles, who's nickname is "The Radar" who at 154 had enough power to get a mention as having one of the best KO's of the year. At his peak his defense was on par with Floyd's and Palomino said Benitez knew what he was going to throw even before him did. SRL said much the same.
     
  3. Thread Stealer

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    I agree. One of the things Mayweather is somewhat susceptible to is feints. Guys like Castillo and that caveman Maidana were able to corner Mayweather by feints (and jabs too).

    Despite his selective opposition, Mayweather is/was a special fighter, and I've always thought highly of his abilities. I think he's a tough matchup for anyone from 130-140.

    I don't think it's quite enough though for Duran. Even in his younger years, Mayweather could allow himself to get outworked at times. He could be selective to a fault with his punches.

    He'd frustrate Duran at times with clever movement and boxing, but Duran would still effectively get to him. Duran was as great as anyone at mixing offense and defense. I still say Duran against Dejesus in the 3rd fight was more impressive defensively than any singular fight of Mayweather. Duran was controlled in his aggression, and Dejesus couldn't even hit him. He was constantly whiffing and taking Duran's counters in return. Mayweather was and remains difficult as hell to hit, but so was Duran.

    Duran wins a 8-4 type decision in a 12 rounder, or 9-6, 10-5 in a 15 rounder.
     
  4. hussleman

    hussleman Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Floyd, speed and defensive skills will be the deciding factor. In a fight against someone like Duran.
     
  5. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't even think he has much of an edge on either.

    Speed yes,

    defensive skills, not by much,

    power not even close,

    aggression not even close,

    tenacity and work rate, not even close.

    Fact is Mayweather might have the defense to survive a fight with Duran, but he doesn't have the offense to beat him.
     
  6. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This is my view of it as well. It would be somewhat competitive but not to the point of wondering who deserved to win the fight.
     
  7. N_ N___

    N_ N___ Boxing Addict Full Member

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    My advice is to avoid betting. The odds of that happening would be close to none, if you understand how odds work.
     
  8. N_ N___

    N_ N___ Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Floyd would be a favorite against Benetiz and at worst a 1/3 or 1/4 underdog against any of the others. So after six fights, chances are he has at least two or three wins logged, particularly against Benitez and an older Leonard.
     
  9. Vanboxingfan

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    I think the version of Benitez who went the distance with Hearns would be about a 50/50 proposition in terms of the odds, with a slight edge possibly going to Benitez. As for SRL I guess it depends on how old you're talking about. Certainly prime for prime very few would pick Floyd to beat SRL.
     
  10. N_ N___

    N_ N___ Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Personal opinions aside about the outcome, Floyd would definitely be an odds favorite against Benitez.

    The Leonard I was talking about was from the third Duran fight. It's getting pretty theoretical, but if Floyd were around they'd probably meet at like 156 and Floyd had a lot more left at the same age.
     
  11. FastHands(beeb)

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    I didn't ask for advice from you, nor did I seek it. The issue here is not whether I understand how odds work, it's who wins boxing matches.

    You're a patronising f*cker, aren't you?
     
  12. FastHands(beeb)

    FastHands(beeb) Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So you're cherry-picking which version of SRL Floyd gets to fight, huh?

    You and Floyd have a lot in common...
     
  13. N_ N___

    N_ N___ Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm talking about the same run of opponents that Duran had. Reading comprehension.
     
  14. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well that would include Barkley and no way a 38 year old Floyd beats the Barkley that Duran fought.
     
  15. N_ N___

    N_ N___ Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Barkley was nothing special, but that fight couldn't happen if Floyd were around in the 80s bc he isn't a fat piece of s hit.