Roberto Duran Vs Floyd Mayweather who wins?

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  1. melo9100

    melo9100 Active Member Full Member

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    Lol , I don't even need to explain why this is bull****.
     
  2. brnxhands

    brnxhands Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Because you can't explain
     
  3. JMP

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    Seriously :lol:
     
  4. melo9100

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    Floyd doesn't move lateraly? Lol that statement in itself shows how dumb u are. It's like people just don't get it. Floyd doesnt run around the ring like he did with hatton anymore because he doesn't have to. He's bigger now. It's called developing your style. Similar to winky wright. Floyd stands right in front of guys because they still can't hit him. It's also to tire them out. Then walk them down.. People are talking about styles. Floyd doesn't have a style. Lol. He can do it all and not skip a beat. Ray beat duran by running. Power had nothing to do with it . Stop the b.s. The Floyd the fought Hatton , Judah , baldomir. Could easily run around welterweight duran the same way Srl did. This **** is begining to be ridiculous. People saying Srl has better footwork than Floyd. And duran can outbox Floyd lol. I'm not saying welterweight duran would be ez work but Floyd beats him 9/10.
     
  5. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Which weight?

    130-147 I would favor Duran
    154 I would pick Mayweather to win.
     
  6. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    I didn't say he doesn't ever move laterally you dip****, I said he neglects to do so when its to his benefit. Instead of circling and sticking and moving with DLH like he did in the first round, Floyd only felt comfortable measuring and timing his counters right in front of Oscar, and in the process was backed up time and time again by feints and jabs. Instead of taking punishment against Augustus, he could have circled out and controlled the center, but he gave it up like he always does. It took until the 5th for Floyd to decide to walk Judah down, but curious he didn't circle out and try to get his lead foot on the outside to neutralize that left straight; instead he tried to smother. He moved a good amount against Hatton, but in most rounds, he fought him off the ropes and beat him at his own game. And against Cotto, he was more flat footed in the center than Miguel was until the 12th.

    "Floyd doesn't have a style."

    Of course he does. Every fighter has habits, and Floyd cannot do it all 100 percent perfectly. No fighter can.

    "The Floyd the fought Hatton , Judah , baldomir. Could easily run around welterweight duran the same way Srl did. This **** is beginning to be ridiculous. People saying Srl has better footwork than Floyd."

    Yes, this is getting to be ridiculous, what **** are you on where a welterweight Floyd bounces around on his toes like a defensive Sugar Ray Leonard? When has he ever circled while throwing straight punches the way Leonard did against Lalonde since Corrales?

    For ****'s sake people, if you're going to ignore every reference the more knowledgeable posters make to Duran's list of opponents at lightweight and welterweight, at least get to know your own idol.

    Floyd has been cornered by lesser fighters time and time again. Duran has cornered more mobile fighters in his prime. Duran is the superior infighter. That's where answer lies and where it should rest if you know anything about the sport.
     
  7. Drew101

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    SRL could stay in the pocket and make fighters miss, too. See the Ranzany fight as proof of this.

    But in Duran, he was facing another fighter who was capable of making fighters miss in the pocket before closing the distance. Duran did it in a different way, by rolling with punches rather than using the shell approach, but he could do it and then crowd and smother and suffocate like no other. It became tougher for Manos de Piedra to do that against guys who liked to move- like Vilomar Fernandez and Bizzaro, though, and after Montreal SRL realized that this was probably the approach he should take in the rematch.

    If Mayweather wins against Duran, he would have to use his legs, like SRL did...Like Benitez did...Like Laing did. That's his only real shot in the lower weights, because he's facing someone who could do the same things that Castillo and Chavez did to trouble May- and do them quite a bit better.

    Bogotazo has a point and stated it well. Doesn't seem like you do, except to say 43-0. We know that, man. We know Floyd's great. But that record and that greatness isn't necessarily going to be enough for him to beat a scary, skilled mofo like Duran when the latter was at his best.:deal
     
  8. melo9100

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    First of all. Since you know so much. Look up the ring size for Mayweather vs Dela Hoya. Lol. Not much room to run. Secondly. Consider the fact that Mayweather strategically played the ropes to tire Dela Hoya out. Notice how he countered with body shots. In the middle rounds he didn't move because he was countering Dela hoyas jab with the "pull counter". Once he made Dela Hoya stop throwing it. He cruiser late. So get your **** straight.

    Floyd doesn't get cornered is a strategic part of his game. Always has been. Because he's just as good inside as out.

    Now go look up the ring size for Duran vs Srl. Floyd dance around him just like Srl in that big ass ring.
     
  9. melo9100

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    You already showed your a floyd hater. When did I say anything about floyds record. That shows your animosity towards him. It's about the way guys have been beat. And duran has been beat by boxers time and time again.
     
  10. Bogotazo

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    When you control the center of the ring, the length of the outskirts are irrelevant. If you're one of those people who thinks Floyd gets cornered for fun and has no stylistic weaknesses at all, there's no point in debating as you've ruined your own credibility as a boxing fan.
     
  11. the cobra

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    A guy as ridiculously good at applying pressure and closing distance and working on the inside and defending himself on the way in and setting his perfectly placed punches up with perfectly timed feints (and so on, and so on) as Duran is, is a very bad match up for Mayweather.

    Duran wins a competitive but clear decision. Floyd's far too good to be dominated but peak Duran is as impressive as any fighter we have footage of, and yes, that includes Ray Robinson. Floyd's phenomenal, but he ain't that good. Not even close to it, in all honesty.
     
  12. melo9100

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    Yea. ok. I didn't say he didn't have weakness. I said that duran gets shut down by boxers. Which offsets his abilities. And Floyd is probably the best ever at hit and not get hit. its simple. The books out on duran.
     
  13. JMP

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    :good duran lost to like every boxer he faced. damn right the books out on him :deal

    the books not out on floyd though. what does he say again?

    oh yeah...43 have tried, 43 have failed

    :happy got that, bogotazo?
     
  14. haworths623

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    I think the likes of Mayweather and Pacquaio get underrated in cross generational fights, but Mayweather wouldn't beat Duran.
     
  15. grumpy

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    Duran bowls him over.