Roberto Duran vs Floyd Mayweather's opponents- does he reach 49-0?

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  1. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    Duran wouldn't need to stay in shape for 18 years he fought more than once a year. His first 49 fights where in a span of five years or so.
     
  2. Vanboxingfan

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    That's the answer. :good
     
  3. mrkoolkevin

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    Yes, Duran is one of the all-time greats. That being said, he doesn't beat SRL unless SRL chooses to fight Duran's fight. Not a knock on Duran, he just doesn't have the physical hardware necessary to beat a more mobile Leonard. Very few who've stepped in the ring did. No shame in that. Many great fighters wouldn't even beat the version of Leonard who stood flat-footed and fought a dumb fight, so it is still quite an accomplishment, no matter how you slice it.

    I had always thought that this was the conventional wisdom among knowledgable fans until I ventured into this forum and saw all the embarrassing comic book hero worship and ridiculous fairy tale versions of the fight where Duran dominates Leonard and Leonard tries to use his legs but is unable to because of Duran's superhuman skills and aggression (not to mention the other people who tried to claim that Leonard always stood flat-footed and never used his legs).

    Then we have people like you who grossly exaggerate the quality of his opposition and accomplishments at lightweight.

    If it were not for all of this nonsense, I probably never would have typed anything negative about Duran at all.
     
  4. mrkoolkevin

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    They were in a span of 7 years and he lost one of them. And almost none of them were ranked opponents. Big difference between fighting that caliber of opposition in 7 years and fighting the ones Mayweather fought.
     
  5. mrkoolkevin

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    But back to the original topic: I still don't understand why people think that a man who didn't go 49-0 in real life would do so against bigger, better opposition. What am I missing?? 25 people vote this way and nobody has a coherent explanation.
     
  6. Vanboxingfan

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    I found this on one of the threads, I know it's not going to enlighten you or god forbid change your mind about what transpired, but at least it's a good read.


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  7. Ph33rknot

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    How many ranked opponents did Floyd face in his first 20 fights
     
  8. Vanboxingfan

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    Obviously you've made it crystal clear that ANY explain isn't going to satisfy you. And any explanation regarding your preconceived notion about anything isn't going to change your mind.

    You say that Duran's lightweight resume was ****, and yet all the historians rank him either as the first or 2nd lightweight of all time.

    You still haven't answered the basic question of how these two reconcile. Why? Because you can't.
     
  9. Ph33rknot

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    Caliber of opposition bra
     
  10. Ph33rknot

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    Caliber of opposition bra
     
  11. Ph33rknot

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    No the resumes are pretty close though the 49
     
  12. Vanboxingfan

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    Well those fools had names. They were Leonard and Dundee.
     
  13. Vanboxingfan

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    You're picking ONE loss to support your position. It seems to me 71-1 is better than 49-0. So like I've said numerous times. If these 49 fights are over Mayweather's 18 year time period, then no Duran doesn't win all these fights, but if it's over the first 5-7 years of his career, who's going to beat him?
     
  14. Vanboxingfan

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    Try refuting the facts for once in your life, rather than just blabber away like a teen-child.

    Foxy called you a troll and I'm concluding that he's right.
     
  15. Vanboxingfan

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    You still haven't said who would beat him? Do you not understand the question?