Roberto Duran vs Floyd Mayweather's opponents- does he reach 49-0?

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  1. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I honestly don't see Mayweather going the distance with Barkley. The man had power, and enough size to impose his will on Mayweather. It was only Duran's ability to absorb punishment, and his great defense that allowed him to finish the fight on his feet. Floyd's has one of those two attributes.

    Even Hearns got KO'd and Hearns is every bit the boxer Mayweather is.
     
  2. Vanboxingfan

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    I think about 3-4 of these fighters would beat Mayweather. SRL most certainly, huge power discrepancy between the two, and SRL could either box or fight. Hearns is a given, Barkley too, and Buchanan and Benitez are close calls. I think at 154 or 147 Benitez wins. He has proven power at those weights, Mayweather doesn't. And he's not nicknamed El Radar for nothing. And as far as I know, he's still the youngest person ever to win a championship and the youngest to win three championships in different weight classes. De Jesus could potentially win too if he can land that left hook of his as part of a combination.
     
  3. Vanboxingfan

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    How many fighters has Mayweather fought in which he was decidedly the smaller fighter with the shorter reach?

    Add to the fact that Hearns outboxed SRL in their fight and Mayweather at best fights to survive.

    You did a whole thread about this not too long ago.

    Some said Hearns KO's Mayweather, some said Mayweather finds away to go the distance, I don't recall ANYONE saying Mayweather actually beats Hearns.

    It's a bad, bad style match up for Mayweather, plain and simple.

    BTW, you do realize that defense is only 1/2 of what a fighter needs to win a fight don't you? He still needs to out land the other guy.
     
  4. Vanboxingfan

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    So you're basing this on Duran's one loss to De Jesus I gather.

    Like I said, if we're talking about Duran prior to age 30 then yes I really don't know why he couldn't beat all of fighters Floyd fought.

    Make no mistake about it, De Jesus was a hell of a good fighter, he would beat many of Floyd's comp.
     
  5. mrkoolkevin

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    Duran was certainly under 30 when he fought De Jesus. Plenty of Floyd's victims were tougher opponents/would have beaten De Jesus. (BTW, who was De Jesus' best win other than Duran?) I'm trying here but I don't follow your reasoning.
     
  6. N_ N___

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    Mayweather never even touched the canvas in his career. There's no basis to say he couldn't handle punishment, not to say that he would considering his defense and style compared to Duran's.

    Hearns had glaring weaknesses in chin, stamina (sometimes) and fighting stupidly (sometimes). He was way more vulnerable to being stopped than Floyd.
     
  7. Imperial1

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    Well he was unofficially dropped by Judah and he also was never tested against an elite fighter in their prime. so how is Hearns more vulnerable when he took on great fighters Floyd was rocked by the likes of Demarcus Corley and an old Mosley ..
     
  8. Vanboxingfan

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    If you honestly believe that Mayweather could hang with the likes of Hearns and Barkley I'm not really sure how to reply, because to me he obviously couldn't. He simply doesn't have the power necessary to get the respect of either of these fighters, and he'd be facing some serious firepower coming his way. Not Mosley type power, far above that. You keep focusing on defense and forgetting that you can fight an entire fight and not get hit often, but if you don't hit the other guy and you don't attempt to, you're still going to loose. Did you even watch the Barkley - Hearns fight, or the Barkley - Duran fight. The guy was very capable of throwing punches in bunches and I don't believe this myth that Floyd doesn't get hit with something and that something will hurt him.

    Btw, give me a list of the guys Mayweather fought who were at least 3-6 inches taller than him and had longer reaches. Because it's one thing to outbox a guy in which you have the edge in reach and size, and other to do so when you don't have these attributes and you also have a significant power disadvantage.

    It's a completely different ball game.
     
  9. Vanboxingfan

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    It's well documented that Floyd has brittle hands, so how is he going to be hurting Hearns?

    If anyone is getting hurt in a fight between these two, it's very likely to be Floyd. I'm actually surprised that you two would go so far as to make a case in Floyd's favour against Hearns and Barkley.

    I'm just waiting for a case to be made that says Tyson couldn't hit Floyd either and therefore would lose by decision, because even if Tyson hit Floyd, there's no basis to think Floyd would get hurt. Does that sound about right?
     
  10. Vanboxingfan

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    I thought the list would be comprised of exactly one fighter, namely Oscar. And honestly I think a prime Oscar beats Floyd. Btw, we're not talking marginally longer reach when we're dealing with Hearns, we're talking about a significantly longer reach, and more importantly, far, far, more power.
     
  11. Vanboxingfan

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    It's a bit sad to think you're not kidding, but you genuinely seem to believe what you're saying, so I don't know how to respond. I guess there really is no one in the history of boxing that can beat Floyd because he's just such a defensive master and because he's never been hurt, there really isn't anyone who could hurt him.
     
  12. N_ N___

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    Corrales was one of the hardest hitting 130 champs ever. Barkley wasn't elite btw.
     
  13. N_ N___

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    Direct me to where I said Floyd would hurt Hearns, or even made mention of them fighting each other.
     
  14. Vanboxingfan

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    My sad logic?

    You've got Floyd beating every fighter in history because nobody could hit him and nobody could hurt him. And you're rambling on about my logic?

    Let's see if Floyd fights GGG, if he beats him, it would go a long way to convince me of your case.
     
  15. Vanboxingfan

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