Roberto Duran vs Floyd Mayweather's opponents- does he reach 49-0?

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  1. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    If you get the difference than why were you playing dumb and pretending that we were saying that Floyd would beat Hearns? You still haven't answered my question-- putting aside his prodigious physical talents, which he didn't always use effectively at 160, in what way is Hearns comparably skilled to Mayweather?
     
  2. Vanboxingfan

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    I'm actually basing it more on his fights with Hearns and SRL than Duran but if you want to throw Duran into the mix that's fine too.

    What is wrong with saying it would be a close fight, isn't there a thread on this where the majority here picked Benitez or am I mistaken? SRL and Palomino both said Benitez was the hardest guy to hit that they fought. You really underrate him.
     
  3. Foxy 01

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    You do realise that Hearn's out boxed the far superior than Mayweather Leonard for 12 rounds in their first fight? Then again you probably don't because you claimed Leonard ran, and back peddled for the first 5 rounds when he in fact won the 3 rd on 2 of the judges cards by standing his ground and punching with Tommy.

    That takes some considerable concentration, aside from the fact that even with his cr ap chin, Hearns has nothing to fear from Mayweather power wise. Conversely Mayweather has everything to fear from Hearns who can take him out with either hand at any time.

    No one, and I do mean no one Mayweather has fought ( particularly at the times he fought them ) comes anywhere near Hearns either in size, reach, skill,or power.
     
  4. Vanboxingfan

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    I didn't say it was outlandish, I've said it's a close fight that could go either way, which is a hell of a lot more balanced than you are about it.
     
  5. Vanboxingfan

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    Foxy to the rescue. :lol:
     
  6. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    You said that I'd be naive to think that Floyd wins. That suggests that it must be a pretty outlandish thing to believe. Wow, I don't remember you ever being so dishonest before.
     
  7. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Nobody on this thread was arguing that Floyd would beat Hearns, only that he was far less susceptible to getting knocked out by Barkley.

    BTW, did you ever go back and watch the beginning of those Leonard fights like I nicely asked? Let me know when you do.
     
  8. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    I'm finished with my back and forth with you, now that I've come to understand how dishonest you are. I should have known in the other thread when you lied about having seen all of Mayweather's fights when you clearly know very little about him or his career. I've also noted several times in this thread that you've ignored very reasonable questions, probably because you don't know anything about Kalambay and because you are unable to articulate how Hearns is as skilled as Mayweather. Good day, sir. :hi:
     
  9. Vanboxingfan

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    Good riddance.

    Just because I don't think Floyd walks on water, doesn't mean I haven't seen his fights. I think he has a great defense, and somewhat average offense, who has carefully hand picked his opponents. And I'm hardly the only one who thinks that, as even in general forum that's a widely held view.
     
  10. Vanboxingfan

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    No, you said flat out that Mayweather would probably beat Barkley, that's very different than just wouldn't get knocked out.
    And you've made it quite clear that you consider Mayweather a better boxing than Hearns, dispite Foxy presenting evidence to the contrary.

    Exposed yet again, I can see why you're running for the hills. :lol:
     
  11. fists of fury

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    Duran is awesome and better than Floyd (imo) but I tend to agree...he just lived too much in the moment and let himself go too much between fights to go unbeaten. He most likely drops a decision or two to a less heralded fighter, but who that may be is hard to say.

    As great (and I do mean great) as Duran was, a Kirkland Laing was always just one bad camp away for Roberto it seems. Going 49-0 takes some doing, no matter the quality of the competition. It takes a great consistency, and Duran though generally excellent could and did slip up periodically.

    A real 'peak and trough' kind of fighter.
     
  12. fists of fury

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    I watched that fight just the other day again. God, Duran was amazing here. Really, what a great, great fight. Barkley fought probably the best fight he ever did, and for Duran to actually tame him despite being physically outmatched in every single area and years beyond his best to boot really took some doing.
    For the record, I also had Barkley a very narrow winner, but Duran was so brilliant that I would not argue the official decision.
     
  13. Foxy 01

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    Now why on earth would I want to watch anything you ask me to watch? If you couldn't even get the scoring of the 3rd round in Hearn's / Leonard 1 right, it isn't for me to humour your fantasies.

    Shall I remind you of your words again.

    " Leonard ran circled and back peddled for the first 5 rounds in the first fight with Hearns. "

    Fact.

    He was 4 - 1 down after 5 rounds, with a swelling under the left eye.
     
  14. Foxy 01

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    More to the point are you claiming that Mayweather hit anything like as hard as the 3 guys who KO'd Hearn's?

    All 3 could literally walk through anything Mayweather could throw at them. Think Castillo but bigger, stronger, and harder hitting.
     
  15. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    I asked nicely because I really want you to see how ridiculous/ape**** crazy you sounded when you tried to mock me for pointing out that Leonard fought very differently in the first Duran fight than he did in fights against guys like Hearns and Green (two of the fighters who you named specifically). My 4-yr-old niece could probably tell the difference between the circling and backpeddling Leonard did from the opening bell against Hearns and Green and his approach in walking down and standing flat-footed in front of Duran from the opening bell in their first fight. You only deny this indisputable fact because you and the other Duran fanboys get off pretending that he had the supernatural power to completely prevent Ray Leonard from using his feet in order to further exaggerate Duran's performance against him. I'm getting embarrassed for you all over again just typing about it. :oops: