Roberto Duran vs Floyd Mayweather's opponents- does he reach 49-0?

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  1. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    BTW, am I missing something or did Duran only fight 3 opponents ranked in the top 10 throughout his entire first 49 fights? (four if you count De Jesus twice) :think
     
  2. Foxy 01

    Foxy 01 Boxing Junkie banned

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    Quite simple duck egg. He mentioned his 4 year old niece might know more about boxing than some of us.

    Now had you mentioned the 4 year old niece duck egg, that would be a whole different ballgame with your perverted thoughts of children.:nut

    Do you remember those duck egg?
     
  3. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If Duran had the same will to stay in shape between fights that Floyd has had I would have little doubt of him going undefeated through Floyds resume. In top shape Duran is just a superior fighter to Floyd. Its only his inability to stay in shape that make this thread arguable.
     
  4. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    dont be gross foxy :bbb
     
  5. Foxy 01

    Foxy 01 Boxing Junkie banned

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    Have you checked out that video and those OFFICIAL scorecards yet?
     
  6. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Let's back up a bit and consider Duran's career up until the loss to Leonard during that time period, he beat quality fighters such as Marcel, Buchanan, De Jesus x2, Palomno, and SRL. if he could beat these guys, and he did, he can beat everyone on that list. Let's flip it around, who on that list beats him?? Baldomir, Hatton, Cotto, and Maidana, would be cannon folder and pretty much get the Davey Moore treatment. JMM would likely get stopped via a body punch, and Pac was a shell of himself when he fought Mayweather, if Pac of the Mayweather fight was fighting the Duran of the Moore fight, he would have KO'd Pac within 4-5 rounds.

    That was a terrible fight, I damn near fell asleep during that fight and I remember thinking it's a damn good thing for Mayweather that Duran wasn't in that ring, cause Mayweather wasn't all that hard to hit, it's just that Pac never put his punches together or throw all that many combinations, at least in terms of what we're use to seeing.

    Judah get's treated like Buchanan. Oscar at 154 is the one guy I'm not all that sure about. My best guess is that he gets a few more body punches than he likes and goes down somewhere in the mid to late stages of the fight.
     
  7. Vanboxingfan

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    You're missing a lot.

    Here's what it says on Wikipedia.

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    Then he fought former WBC Welterweight Champion Carlos Palomino and Zeferino Gonzales
     
  8. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    But was I right about only 3 or 4 of his first 49 being ranked at the time of his fights with them? I don't see how the wiki cut-and-paste addressed that.
     
  9. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    I'm confused. Now, you've just named his best wins over a ten-year period. Before you suggested that Duran would have beaten all of Floyd's 49 opponents if he had fought them in a 5 year period (which means that he would have had to fought the men I named 2-3 months apart each). Am I missing something? I'm not the sharpest knife in the kitchen but I'm getting confused by the constant shifts and switches in your scenarios-- makes it difficult to get anywhere. You've also shifted the topic being discussed to whether Duran would be favored to win over them individually (ignoring that he was favored over De Jesus, I suppose). Even if he were favored over each of them (which I'm not too sure about), that by no means suggests that he beats all of them back-to-back-to-back-to-back-to-back-to-back under the conditions you specified.
     
  10. Vanboxingfan

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    I do realize I shifted the time line a bit simply because I'm not sure what an appropriate time period should be. You can choose Mayweather's 18 year or so, Duran's first 49 fights Foxy said took 8 years, and I used the time period up to the 2nd Leonard fight. Some of those guys who fought Duran such as Lampkin were never the same afterwards.

    BTW, I hope it's not true, but if Floyd gets busted for the use of PED's all this 18 year legacy stuff, which admittedly is extremely impressive, falls apart pretty quick.
     
  11. THE BLADE 2

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    Do not matter. Duran is widely seen as the greater fighter, and rightly so in my opinion.
     
  12. Foxy 01

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    Actually it was 7 years to the very month. Feb 68 - Feb 75 for Duran to clock up 49 fights.

    In the same time period Mayweather had fought 30 fights, beating WBU titleist N'Dou, former WBC titleist, though 4 times previously beaten Castillo, IBC titleist Hernandez, Corrales ( very good win ) WBU again Manfredy, and former WBA, WBC, S/ Feather champion Genaro Hernandez aged 33.

    So make of that what you will.
     
  13. Foxy 01

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    Now that, is a perfect example of pot meet kettle duck egg. YOU make sick remarks about kids, and you accuse someone else of being gross.:patsch

    Is that all part of being Jafaikan duck egg?
     
  14. Bummy Davis

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    Hearns
    Hagler
    Leonard

    absolutely beat Floyd but there may be others Duran started at 130lbs and was the same height as Floyd yet fought Barkley at 168 and Hagler among others
     
  15. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Oh, so you didn't really mean that he wouldn't go 49-0 against Duran's first 49 actual opponents-- you were saying that he wouldn't go undefeated for his whole career if he fought Duran's opponents. That's a different argument and I would agree with you on that one.