Roberto Duran vs Mayweather

im using your logic,

just because duran won the rematch doesnt mean he didnt get beat!!!

 

Again you said De Jesus will always be his daddy last I checked that's not my logic that's yours .

 

mayweather sucks duran...

wooops i mean ducks....

 

Floyd does not rely on power to keep bigger guys off him

 

Floyd hasn't tested those skills against a great fighter in their prime so how can we judge how good his defence/pot shooting really is?

I for one don't agree Floyd has better footwork than Duran did. Floyd does have very good footwork but he could be got at. It's his defence and punch selection/accuracy that's outstanding not his footwork. When his footwork fails him (like it has done in fights) he uses his shell and reflexes against the ropes to dodge and block punches. Duran has very fast feet so he would have Floyd up against the ropes a lot. Floyd doesn't move like Leonard he's more economical so I don't get why people use Leonard vs Duran 2 as evidence to why Floyd can keep away from Duran. Leonard was far more fleet of foot compared to FMJ

As for ring IQ both are outstanding in that area but Duran used his and proved his against much tougher opposition so to say Floyd has better ring IQ I find ridiculous. Even Hagler said Duran was the cleverest fighter he faced.

Floyd is faster in terms of single shots but Duran throws faster combo's and integrates offence to defence and back much quicker and more fluidly than Floyd.

Both have great defences, Duran's was more technical while Floyd is more about reflexes and shell. Duran had a great defence while taking risks and that's much more impressive to me. Bobbing, blocking, parrying, fainting, all in between throwing skilled combos. Floyds defence is all about not taking many risks. Moving, Covering up, parrying and shoulder rolling against the ropes while only taking risks in single punches. It really depends on what you like. I think Durans defence was more impressive.

Floyd isn't that all round skilled. Not on the level of Duran for sure. The way some people talk about him on here you would think he was Jose Napoles.

 

The problem with a thread like this is that only about 1/2 the posters, maybe even less, have only seen one of these two fighters actually fight. As a result you get some truly stupid comments, such as Duran was flat footed, has a crappy defense etc. It would really be nice to have this type of discussion with those who have watched both of their careers, and it's certainly no coincidence that those that have lean towards Duran. It's hard to watch them both at the their best and not arrive at that conclusion.

 

I agree mate. A thread like this is always better discussed in the classic.
Some of the comments I've seen on here are worse than what you would get on a Duran vs Mayweather youtube video.

 

Duran is the better fighter period. Thats not to say floyd anit but durans better. Period.

 

you wish this guy duran got beat in his prime by a fighter three levels below floyd, he then quit in the biggest fight of his life, duran couldnt carry floyds jockstrap

 

Duran had more power at both WW and LW, but Duran never saw a defensive fighter like FLoyd before, not even Benitez who coincidentally beat Duran in a decision.

If Duran had such issues with SRL in their second fight when Leonard decided to fight completely opposite to how he fought in Montreal- utilizing his head movement, footwork and being overall quite elusive- I just can't imagine Duran having better success with Floyd who is exponentially greater at defense than Leonard was.

FLoyd has the reach advantage, footspeed, handspeed and elite defense that favors him in this fight. Duran is the more powerful of the 2, but I just don't see how he'd be able to get to Floyd if Mayweather decides to stay on his bicycle and backpedal the majority of the fight and just time him when Duran lunges in.

Duran is an underrated boxer with good head movement, but he had a propensity to lunge in a lot. Floyd would just wait and basically time him.

I hope we're talking about both of these guys in their absolute primes fighting each other. If that's the case, Duran's best was unquestionably at LW and FLoyd is a very unusual guy as his prime looked to be bimodal- he was an ATG at Super FW and he's had great success in the heavier weights as well.

I think this fight would be a UD at either LW or WW for Mayweather, but I think it would be a little bit closer if they fought at 135 as Duran was a little bit faster at that weight class. The idea that Floyd never fought a 15 round fight is quite irrelevant considering this guys overall conditioning and stamina; if anyone actually knows how Floyd trains and watches him fight knows he's very much able to fight 15 rounds if it was allowed. He's a freakish athlete with very few fighters in the history of the sport that are able to say they have the conditioning of a FLoyd Mayweather.

When I look at the way Benitez beat him, as well as SRL in their 2nd fight when Ray decided to actually fight a "smart" fight compared to him sticking in the pocket like an idiot in their first fight, and I feel fairly confident Floyd Mayweather, in his absolute prime, would best Duran.

 

That's a baseless statement unless you can provide some actual information/veritable evidence that can corroborate your reasoning behind that statement.

 

Question is, will he be able to keep a guy who is going to come at him from all angles with speed and power and won't necessarily back off even when he is hit off him for 15 rounds?

 

esteban dejesus kept duran honest floyd would have no problems doing that

 

DeJesus did not fight in that overtly cautious style. DeJesus kept Duran fighting hard because DeJesus had no problems trading with Duran. When they would go tit for tat, DeJesus would have his moments. Mayweather does not trade let alone in a situation of that sort. One punch at a time won't be enough. Especially against a hard jaw like Duran's