Roberto Duran was Alexis arguello 135 1978

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  1. HeavyweightCP

    HeavyweightCP Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think Duran takes him apart easy what do you guys think.
     
  2. Skins

    Skins Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I love Alexis, but his style was made to order for Duran. Duran by ko
     
  3. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Arguello would offer stern resistance in the early going but Duran would be too strong and fast,ultimately.


    Hands of Stone stops the Explosive Thin Man by the time the seventh round's bell rings.
     
  4. JLP 6

    JLP 6 Fighter/Puncher Full Member

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    Duran takes Alexis Arguello apart? Made to order?

    If Duran were that good he would taken apart Hearns which aside from the speed is every bit as deadly a puncher.

    It is hard for me to pick anyone over Duran at lightweight I can see Arguello being one of those guys who could. Long reach, compact punching, beautiful footwork, patience, trading power. Duran has better boxing skill and speed. Arguello hit harder and has major height and reach advantages. Arguello has a solid chin and a professional killer instinct just like Duran.

    He may be the perfect oppenent to beat Duran. His left hook is greater by far then anyone else in the lightweights history and so is his right hand.

    Take Duran apart?

    I am not sure how to pick this match up.
     
  5. Shake

    Shake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't agree with the notion that if Duran takes Arguello apart he should beat Hearns. Not in the slightest.
     
  6. Baclava

    Baclava Active Member Full Member

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    Arguello can deal with pressure fighters, he fought Mancini pretty well. I can see Arguello doing the unthinkable against Duran.
     
  7. JLP 6

    JLP 6 Fighter/Puncher Full Member

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    It sounds like you were going to elaborate.

    Will someone on here take a chance and post something to sink your teeth into? I am curious on how the fight takes place that Duran crushes Arguello.

    Hearns is the only fighter I can think of that would present all the challenges Arguello would present Duran with without the lighting speed. Tall, good boxer, hard hitter with both hands. Arguello has a better chin.
     
  8. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Duran has quicker hands than Arguello also a better defense. Roberto hit as hard if not harder at 135 than Alexis ever did. Arguello was a standup fighter who took punches. Thats not a good thing against a prime Duran.

    Duran could outslug Arguello but he would probably outbox him early at the same time applying smart pressure and making Alexis pay for his mistakes. Not saying he would necessarily dominate Arguello. Im sure the Explosive Thin Man would have some moments and some success scoring as well.

    At the end of the day the difference in hand and foot quicknes not to mention Duran`s superior defense is just too tall of an order for Arguello to overcome.

    The guy getting hit with the cleaner punches is going to lose. Thats Arguello.

    PS the Hearns bout is not a good analogy for this for various reasons.
     
  9. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    1. Not the same Duran
    2. Not the same weight division
    3. Not even the same height disparity. Hearns was-6-1 Alexis 5-10.
    4. Hearns has so much more speed and power at that point in his career in that division.
     
  10. JLP 6

    JLP 6 Fighter/Puncher Full Member

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    Fine ETM...Sheesh. LOL!

    I couldn't think of a fighter in the range of an opponent of Arguello that Duran has fought other than Hearns. Arguello is certain in the same class of greatness of Hearns. Same right hand, better left hook. The point is Duran will be looking up to a considerably taller fighter that fights tall, is all-time great, and cracks freakin hard.

    There is a lot we agree on. Duran's speed and defense over Alexis being the my obvious but, I think you are really selling Alexis short. You make it sound like Duran would be fighting Chico Corrales. I have no doubt that Alexis rules the same lightweight division if you switched him with Duran. Not because it was weak but, because Alexis even at 135 was still great.

    I don't think that Kenny Buchannan keeps bouncing around the ring after tasting the full blast power of Arguello like he did against Duran. And if Duran catches one of Arguello's hook and goes down like he did against DeJesus, if he gets up, he will have to fight for his life to survive the round and maybe the next few rounds because Alexis doesn't get tired and he is a very accurate finisher. Way after his prime he just about decapited Aaron Pryor, which has to be the hardest punch landed that did not drop a fighter.

    Botton line, Alexis and Duran would be a war. If you were Duran's coach telling him that he can blast Alexis out you would be sending Duran in on a suicide mission. He, Duran, would be better off boxing and trying to get a points decision.

    I think Duran gets a close points decision. But, honestly I can either one of them being KO. More so Alex than Duran but not after both have recieved some serious leather and Lord Duran was serverly tested.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vd30SKv1d_o I think this video shows the best in Alexis at that weight.
     
  11. burt bienstock

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    Watching once again Alexis Arguello fight ,aside from his greatness , he was the perfect gentleman in the ring, truly concerned for his victims...
    He along with the great Joe Louis were two of my very favorite fighters
    as much for their modesty and inner class in and out of the ring....
    Yes it is said "the good die young "...
     
  12. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    I'm very confused by the thread title.

    Was this like a Kaufman/Zmuda type deal?

    ...and only in '78? So any other time it was the 'real' Arguello?
     
  13. gentleman jim

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    At first I was going to say that Duran wins but then I thought...Who did Duran as a LW ever fight that was equal to or better than Arguello? The only answer I could come up with was....nobody. Ken Buchanan maybe but Alexis certainly hit with more authority and had more offensive weapons than Ken did...and Ken was hanging in there even though he took a pasting from Duran who was obviously frustrated with Buchanan's refusal to go down. it took a shot to Ken's family jewels late in the fight to end things(which I always thought was strange...Shouldn't Duran have been DQ'd?). I'm not trying to denigrate Duran who is certainly an ATG but I was never overly impressed with his resume at LW. Arguello would've been his biggest test at that weight and while Duran could certainly win, it would be no walk in the park....not at all.
     
  14. JLP 6

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    Yep. On top of that he was a soldier. Amazing character.
     
  15. JLP 6

    JLP 6 Fighter/Puncher Full Member

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    Exactly. I like to see some context before guy just say...such and such destroy's this guy. Otherwise we waste a good learning convo. I obviously agree with everything you said there.