Roberto Duran Would've SCHOOLED Floyd Mayweather Jr. 9-3!

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  1. Bogotazo

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    I don't see the Maidana version of Mayweather as too far removed from his welterweight prime. The habits were the same. Viruet moved well against Duran but moved around the ring more than Floyd would and didn't cause Duran much trouble.

    Why? Duran was amazing countering from the outside. He countered Leonard who was much quicker form the outside.

    That's not true though, Cotto had shorter arms and the jab was the most important weapon in his arsenal. Duran is far better on the inside than Cotto is.

    Floyd could have easily drawn against a very aggressive fighter not far removed from his welterweight prime. Getting bothered from a cut isn't an excuse. Maidana was able to exploit flaws Floyd always had. Augustus cornered him, Castillo cornered him, Hatton cornered him, Cotto cornered him, De La Hoya cornered him, and Maidana cornered him. Unlike those fighters, he'd be fighting a top-tier All Time Great who is elite on the inside.

    Reducing this argument to reach, as if Floyd could never lose to a shorter-armed fighter, is simplistic and ignores the fact that short arms can be an asset on the inside. He allowed lesser fighters than Duran to give him a run for his money. Why would Duran be thrown off his game? You act like he's never faced a faster longer armed fighter before. Floyd would hit him easily? No chance. Duran is just as good defensively as Floyd.

    You're not really using analysis here, just describing a Floyd victory as if Duran were any of Floyd's past opponents. Duran is a more complete fighter than Floyd. Duran would be the best fighter Floyd ever fought. Floyd would not be the best fighter Duran ever fought.
     
  2. tinman

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    And then there was time that Duran beat a 74 inch reach Ray Leonard and held his own against 75 inch reach Marvin Hagler.
     
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  3. tinman

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    Duran is just the more skilled and complete fighter than Mayweather. His technique is just superior.
     
  4. tinman

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    Floyd Mayweather has one major weakness. And it's a big one. He does not like to get cornered on the inside. If Maidana and Castillo can corner him then the most skilled fighter in the history of boxing can do it too.
     
  5. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Duran would completely nullify Floyd's reach advantage. He would do this by cutting off the ring, slipping, ducking, feinting, turning him around, taunting with the jab, shifting, etc. You don't just beat Ray Leonard while giving up that much size by just fairy wishing it. It doesn't just happen because it happens. It's possible through sublime technique and skill.
     
  6. Pimp C

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    SRL fought a dumb fight in the first one, he let Duran get into his head. What happened in the rematch? What was Duran's excuse for losing to De Jesus?
     
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  7. Pimp C

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    PBF was past his prime against Cotto at 154 a weight he had no business at and still won going away the jab was the only punch he had real success with all night. Like I said earlier a short armed fighter will not beat PBF and I have been proven right because he's never lost. If I remember correctly I think you picked Cotto to beat PBF.

    PBF was 37 when he fought Maidana he was not prime his last prime fight was against JMM in 2009 so just stop it. Getting cut by a headbutt is an excuse for the shaky start once he got over that Maidana arguably didn't win another round. You also fail to mention Maidana outweighed PBF by damn near 20 pounds on fight night. He was setting traps on Hatton he was never cornered against him. The only guy who really cornered him in his prime was JLC. With that said PBF can fight off the ropes and has good defense and countering ability while there probably one of the best fighters in the history of the sport at fighting off the ropes.

    You seem to think boxing is a video game and that Duran will just simply walk in and get inside a longer armed fighter with great accuracy faster hand speed reflexes great movement and an ATG counter puncher to boot and not get touched up. We have seen Duran struggle to deal with guys who show movement. SRL, Bentitez just to name a few. He's not unbeatable and has lost to lesser fighters than PBF and in his prime. The blueprint is out on Duran there's no blueprint for PBF.

    You can't seem to understand that PBF is an ATG the best fighter of this era who would be great in any era and arguably could very well be the best fighter he's faced. A guy like Duran who has short arms and struggles with guys like PBF who have speed movement and defense isn't the man to beat him. If this was a thread talking about Hearns beating PBF then I'd agree. Duran isn't up to the task he was exposed and beaten by lesser fighters than PBF. If the fight happened today and both were prime PBF would be the favorite over him.
     
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  8. tinman

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    It wasn't a dumb fight. Leonard tried to jab and move on the outside, but when Leonard tried to use his legs, and reach it didn't work. Duran would cut the ring off, change levels, feint, taunt with the jab, slip, roll, block, duck, etc.

    Then once Duran got inside Duran started pounding away.

    No version or any gameplan that Leonard could use would beat an in shape and 29 year old Duran. No version of Leonard can beat the best version of Duran.
     
  9. Pimp C

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    He lost to Hagler quit acting like he won and it's some sort of moral victory. Yeah he beat SRL in the first fight when he got into SRL's head and SRL fought dumb in the rematch Duran quit like a *****. You're not getting in PBF's head he will fight his fight regardless.
     
  10. tinman

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    Nope, Duran will get inside by using superior skill.
     
  11. tinman

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    Nobody rates Duran higher than Mayweather and nobody thinks H2H he's a better fighter. But this guy Pimp C thinks because Mayweather never lost he can't lose because there is no blueprint. Well, Golovkin has never lost, neither has Marciano, Wilder and Calzaghe.
     
  12. Pimp C

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    Wrong! Technically superior fighters don't lose to the likes of De Jesus in their prime and quit against SRL and lose to a no hoper in Lang.
     
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  13. Okin129

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    These guys will never understand it . There is no blueprint to beat PBF , because he is simply unbeatable
    in his prime.
    Even in his mid 30s he was unbeatable and even today at 40 , he is unbeatable.
    He came from a 21 month retirement and absolutely dominated Juan Manuel Marquez in 2009, he made
    him look like a schoolgirl and knocked him down.
    His shoulder roll and counterpunching is simply perfect , he would be still one of the best fighters in the
    world at 50, because his technique and style is superior and he is unbelievably experienced.
     
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  14. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    :risas3::risas3::risas3:

    Here we go with this **** again. Please stop it.
     
  15. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    You also think Erik Morrales beats PBF and so does a prime Pac what do you know?:risas3::risas3::risas3: