Robin Reid - Just Short Of Greatness?

good fighter ,not great . could have done better but he liked the girls ( they liked him ) and the high life too much.
great chin, i thought the calzaghe fight was very close but calzaghe has since been proven the much better fighter anyway.
reid also won his world title in italy, a feat in itself.
he did come across as a good chap as well.

 

they way he was treated by jeff lacy's people as well was nothing short of a disgrace.

what really bothers me about the ottke fight is that had things gone rightfully reid's way that night it would most likely have set up a unification bout with calzaghe.

reid was far from great but yes had he got the rub of the green history would look a lot different at SMW.

 

He was a good fighter at his best.

 

robin reid.
nice jab, iron chin and a good solid right hand. he did show pretty good mobilty and boxing skill for a small guy. jeff lacy who had the same stats as reid had a entirely different fight plan, so it shows what a surpising set he brang to the table.he should of got the decision from the ottke fight. lovely movement and a sweet jab.he was a top 10 168lbs contender for almost 10 years that is a very impressive accomplishment. he dominated the european scene. why he didnt go on the european title circuit i'll never know as it woudl of looked far better than his wbf title campaign.

he was unlucky against lacy becuase i felt he was treated badly by the whole event. he was knocked down after he was told to break. he also had 5 rounds to take lacy out...it was possible. all the knockdowns were cuffing and not real damaging shot.

he is also an immensly tough lad. hangs out with unsavoury people aswell. story's of him getting harrased by chavs then bopping to the boot of his car to fetch a pair of gloves.if you can get into the porn scene easily your messing with the wrong crowd.

i dont think he should be considered a "GREAT" but i do feel like he has a chance of beating about 2/3 of all super middle champions.

one of the best counterpunchers i have seen live.

 

That happened in a pub just down the road from me when Reid was seeing a girl from round here. He knocked 3 blokes out with his sparring mitts on apparently.

 

Kinda reminds of Young Corbett (draw with Yanger, McGovern fights, etc).

 

When you look at it like that, Reid does seem to be a top level operator. However, having seen most of his fights, I do not think this is really the case. An SD against a green Calzaghe having an off-night was a very good, solid showing, but a far cry from 'greatness'. And an SD loss to Sven Ottke is again another good showing, but no great feat - Charles Brewer managed it twice, and he was nowhere near 'just short of greatness'.

I have actually saw Reid fight live a few times, and I believe him to be a good, solid, strong fighter, a level above the best domestics (Michael Sprott, Jon Thaxton, Michael Gomez) but not good enough to be considered a world-class fighter (Ricky Hatton, Chris Eubank). I see him around the same level as a peak Scott Harrison.

Remember, Reid was outclassed by Silvio Branco when Branco was 34 and had already been stopped by Richie Woodhall and beaten 3 times by Agostino Cardamone.

When Malinga took Reid's title he was 42 years old and had 10 losses on the record - he lost the fight before Reid to the quite frankly awful Vincenzo Nardiello, and lost the fight after to Richie Woodhall. And after that, Sugarboy's career soon stuttered to a halt.

This is not the stuff of greatness, nor even close to greatness. Good fighter, no better.

 

PS: Scratch that, I'm not sure he's even as good as a Scott Harrison.

 

Malinga was an old shot fighter when he beat Reid.Sugar boy had been past his prime since the first Eubank and Benn fights.

It was htat loss that really put Reids ability in perspective.

 

My sentiments exactly.

 

That's exactly what I thought when I saw the title of this thread.

For the record, I did think he beat Calzaghe, and he was screwed by the officials against Ottke and Lacy. But embarassing/inexcusable losses like Malinga are what rightfully put him on the backburner and undermine what successes he had.

 

You are totally right.The ref should've been suspended after that. By far the worst bit of reffin i've ever seen

 

Calzaghe was beating Reid handily until the injury.

It is still impressive that he won several rounds against an injured Calzaghe.

The fight was very close, too close without the deduction. With it though, the figth was without doubt Calzaghe's.