Robinson/Graziano: Over looked GREAT KO

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  1. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    In the lists of great KO's, this one is hardly ever mentioned. The shot Robinson lands is exceptional.

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  2. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Normally, the knockout victim doesn't see the punch which takes him out. Interestingly Rocky claimed he saw this one coming, and knew it was over before that right even connected, a scary thought.:scaredas: (I think I'd rather not know what hit me.)
     
  3. Tin_Ribs

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    I don't think I've ever seen another fighter who could double and triple up on the left hook with such speed and torque in a repeated motion like Robinson could.
     
  4. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Watch some Roy Jones
     
  5. Tin_Ribs

    Tin_Ribs Me Full Member

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    :roll:
     
  6. Shake

    Shake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm not sure why you're rolling your eyes, as the comment about Jones is valid.

    Robinson adapts so well. Graziano makes it apparant that he's willing to take risks, and Robinson immediately content to jab, create space and pick his spots -- ferocious whenever he chooses to do so. Nice post, he grant.
     
  7. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Louis closed out round three with Max Baer by launching five consecutive hooks, missing the first two, but decking Maxie with the last three in the sequence. (This was when Baer actually took out his mouthpiece and waved to the crowd, but the bell "saved" him.) That was perhaps the greatest single combination of Joe's entire career though, while Robby did it with regularity.

    When using Ray's films as training material, it was just this ability of Robinson's which made a believer of Mike McCallum.
     
  8. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't think even Roy Jones quite got the kind of power behind his triple left hooks as Robinson did. I was never hit by them of course so I can't truly say but from what I've seen Roy's multiple left hooks combinations often seem to be more for the show. Robinson finished fights with those lefts.
     
  9. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    For a heavyweight Cleveland Williams was a great left hooker, he could throw three, four, five, even six left hooks in quick succession... Not that he was ever in the class of Robinson, Louis or Jones.
     
  10. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Graziano could take a punch but Robinson could deliver one alright... great KO.
     
  11. Tin_Ribs

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    :roll::roll::roll::roll::roll::roll::roll::roll:

    Because I half expected someone to come flaunting either Jones' or someone else's name when I was making a half-serious statement, and wasn't surprised by who it was. Happy?

    And Jones didn't throw that combo with the equivalent p4p power or body torque that Robinson did, nor against the same level of opposition.

    Good last paragraph though.
     
  12. Tin_Ribs

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    Co-sign.
     
  13. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    It's good but not overlooked. Graziano is a limited fighter and not among the most durable of fighters. Graziano was a small middleweight as is too.
     
  14. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He was only ever knocked out by two men, Tony Zale and Sugar Ray Robinson. That's no shame. In all the fights Graziano won, he walked through punishment. He relied on his ability to take punishment.

    Even when Zale disposed of Graziano in 3 rounds, it took every combination he had to put The Rock out for the count. Robinson did it with one punch.

    I wouldn't say it's overlooked though because there has been quite a lot of discussion about this KO before.

    Robinson knocking Robert Villemain around the ring is more overlooked in my opinion. That was the only time Villemain was ever knocked out.

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  15. Tin_Ribs

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    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Zale himself testified to Graziano's toughness, saying that the only way to beat him was to literally kill him. And Zale wasn't one to hand out compliments from what I've heard.