Robinson Opposition vs. Floyd?

I am all for a fresh eye.

Sugar is to be regarded, in my opinion, as the #1 WW in history head to head. His standing is vastly enhanced by his two wins over Kid Gavilan. I haven't seen either of these fights, but I have seen a lot of Kid G in other fights. In my opinion, he's the #2 head to head at WW based upon that footage. Mayweather, on the other hand, is yet to meet an eliter WW. In ATG terms, that makes them incomparable. In head to head terms that means all intangibles favour Robinson. I also happen to think that Robinson is superior on film.

For the record, I rank him all time #3 rather than #1, but it is rareified are, as you say.

 

Why?

This thread is about how Mayweather would get on against Robinson's opposition, right? Robinson weighed about the same for Turpin I as Mayweather did against Oscar. So why can't we make a direct comparison? If Mayweather needs to be handicapped in a way that Robinson did not, surely the point is moot?

I think that head to head is very, very difficult to discern. I have absolutley no interest in picking winners in your pound for pound fantasy land.

 

That Robinson is easier to hit? On the outside, most definitely. But then he's coming with a very different style.

 

Nah.

An excellent jab coming form unpredicatble angles and establishing range and rhythm whilst throwing a variety of punches out of an awkward stance sounds like a Floydian nightmare. He's also much bigger, much stronger, hits hard enough to have stopped Don Cockell (who later gave Marciano an arugment) and has the craft to out-point Robinson. On the other hand, Floyd struggled with the smaller, weaker, more predictable and by that stage, slower, Oscar. There is basically nothing on film to support your position.

You're becoming confused. Ring's rankings don't represent the winners of some fantasy head to head pound for pound tournie. It's based upon the achievments of the very best fighters in the world, and an attempt to describe them in order. You will neve, ever, ever, see fighters who have achieved nothing but look amazing ahead of the game's biggest success stories. Even Marquez and Vasquez were on there for 15 months without fighting until they were finally dropped for inactivity. It has almost nothing to do with a comparison of attributes.

Well i've never ever seen it discussed on this forum in 3 plus years.