Robinson Was Dropped 10 Times In His Career!!

Lance_Uppercut · Apr 30, 2008

bigtime9 said:

great post you are making the floyd haters look stupid. as a matter of fact you are doing so well I don't even need to jump in and kick their asses:deal
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Blocky got whupped you dumb****. Another Masters Degree for you!!:thumbsup

Jbuz · Apr 30, 2008

ad82 said:

He fought in an era of 15 rounders and tiny gloves. He also was a far more exciting fighter than Mayweather and actually opened up to attack from time to time. Nice idea that.
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Spot on.

maciek4 · May 1, 2008

southpaw1974 said:

What makes you think that Mayweather would not have done at least as good as Robinson if he fought in that era? Do you not agree that Mayweather is an amazing fighter with amazing defense, stamina, footwork, speed, quickness, ring intelligence, chin, underrated power, work ethic and athleticism? How about imagining Mayweather in Robinson's era for a change? All I keep reading is how great Robinson was and how often he fought and who he beat. Let's put Mayweather in that era. Other than punching power, Robinson didn't have anything over Mayweather who had better defense than Robinson. Mayweather is also a better inside fighter than Robinson was.
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In order to even compare the two, Mayweather needs to fight the best first. When he fights Cotto we wont even be having this discussion, I will create a new thread, who would win Cotto or Robinson.

maciek4 · May 1, 2008

bigtime9 said:

great post you are making the floyd haters look stupid. as a matter of fact you are doing so well I don't even need to jump in and kick their asses:deal
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The difference is that all of these guys fought each other and many times too wereas Floyd avoids the best like a plague. Also Mayweather aint undefeated, he lost to Castillo.

bigtime9 · May 1, 2008

The number of fights is important. Floyd has not even 40 fights. Robinson won a lot more than 40 fights in a row. Robinson had to fight Jake Lamotta 6 times, and was floored twice. That's not bad considering he only lost one of those fights. The only time Ray was KO'd was when he was about to retire and was fighting in unusual heat.

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are you **** boys implying that floyd needs to fight 200 times to be greater than robinson sugar ray leonard fought 40 times are you ****s implying he is not an atg:deal

maciek4 · May 1, 2008

bigtime9 said:

are you **** boys implying that floyd needs to fight 200 times to be greater than robinson sugar ray leonard fought 40 times are you ****s implying he is not an atg:deal
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No but he needs to fight the best the division has to offer, thats Cotto, Williams, Margarito, Quintana, Mosley not De LA Hoya or Hatton, those are good wins but he has to move on and he dont want to do that.

jaycuban · May 1, 2008

this post is worthless, everyons is just posting on it to say the same thing

ray robinson wins by murder

MGUNZ48 · May 1, 2008

southpaw1974 said:

Guys,

I'm not sure you are aware of this, but Sugar Ray Robinson was dropped 10 times in his career. On top of having better defense, Mayweather has a better chin than Robinson had. The times that he has been tagged, he has shown a pretty sturdy chin. In addition, his amazing defense is what has allowed him to avoid being hurt in a fight. There's no doubt that Robinson was great, but this idea that no fighter can ever be elevated higher than him is absurd.

No other sport is as intolerant of modern participants in regards to being compared to athletes of yester-year as boxing. In tennis, when someone called Sampras (and now Federer) the greatest ever nobody blinked. In basketball when someone calls Jordan the greatest ever, nobody blinks. God-forbid someone suggest that Mayweather is greater than Robinson was!! No fighter is perfect, but Mayweather is closer to perfect than Robinson was. 39-0, amazing defense, amazing footwork, great stamina, great hand/foot-speed, underrated power, extremely intelligent, great ability to make adjustments, great work ethic in the gym, great athleticism. Even if Mayweather beat Cotto, people would still criticize him and say Cotto was overrated. No wonder he talks about retiring.
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PBF is a great fighter, no doubt. But he is no SRR, get a grip.

SugarRay · May 1, 2008

southpaw1974 said:

By the way, even if Mayweather does lose one day he's still the best fighter I've ever seen, and the fact that people would expect pefection from him when Robinson was far from perfect is an indication of how great the guy really is!! The standards that he is held to are insane. I don't think you guys realize how great you think he is.
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Mayweather is a great fighter but, Robinson's offensive ability shits on him anyday. If you look at the ATG p4p fighters the list is dominated by great offensive fighters. Mayweather isn't one of them.

Rumsfeld · May 1, 2008

southpaw1974 said:

Guys,

I'm not sure you are aware of this, but Sugar Ray Robinson was dropped 10 times in his career.
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Well, this changes everything!

Robinson is no longer the #1 P4P fighter of all-time! Thank you for exposing him for the bum that he is.

Robinson is ****.

:smoke

ron u.k. · May 1, 2008

southpaw1974 said:

I love how my logic is shoddy, but other people's logic on here is supposedly sound. So what if certain fighters have or would possibly give Floyd problems, the fact is that he hasn't lost and has managed to figure out the style of 39 ****ing opponents!! Barkley had a style that Hearns couldn't beat, does anybody rank him above Hearns all time? Forrest had a style that Mosley couldn't beat, does anybody rank him above Mosley all time? Junior Jones had a style that Barrera couldn't beat, does anybody rank him above Barerra all-time?

My point is that not only does Floyd have more talent than all those guys that were mentioned, but he hasn't lost!! So what if guys have given him problems, he deserves credit for having made adjustments and finding a way to win. His ring IQ is at the genius level on top of having sick skills. Yes, styles make fights, and his style beats everybody!! "Judah was doing really well the first few rounds". That's like saying "Nadal won the first set against Federer in Wimbledon". That's why they go 12 rounds you idiots!! Unless you knock a guy out, you have to win 7 out of the 12 rounds. Winning 3 or 4 and going "well I did pretty well" doesn't cut it. If you are runing the 100 meter dash and you come out of the blocks really quickly and are leading at the 50 meter mark and someone else catches and surpasses you, you lose. There's no going "well I got off to a good start". You guys are killing me!!
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well there's another guy who hasn't lost and presumably has figured out all his opponents.what are your thoughts on calzaghe then?

fitzgeraldz · May 1, 2008

Guys were more relentless and more aggressive than fighters today. A fighter of old got away with winning of sure will alone. Add to that that Robinson had hundreds of fights ... 10 times is nothing ... How many times was he dropped before LaMatta?

Guys were also fighting 15 rounds ...

JAB5239 · May 1, 2008

bigtime9 said:

are you **** boys implying that floyd needs to fight 200 times to be greater than robinson sugar ray leonard fought 40 times are you ****s implying he is not an atg:deal
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Leonard fought the best. He fought all time geats to prove himself. Floyd fights for all time PPV sales. His career doesn't come close to Leonards let alone Robinsons. Live with it.

fitzgeraldz · May 1, 2008

Floyd doesn't need to fight 200 times ... Floyd is set and his legacy is secure. What he's done and given his style gives Floyd a legit chance without having to fight so much.

At WW ... Floyd wins UD

Rumsfeld · May 1, 2008

fitzgeraldz said:

At WW ... Floyd wins UD
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Floyd still hasn't taken on an elite welterweight since Judah, if you even still considered him elite when Floyd faced him.

Now you have him beating Robinson?

:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

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