Robinson Was Dropped 10 Times In His Career!!

Hagler was a boxer-puncher. He fought most of his fights in the boxer-puncher mode. He loved to circle the ring and use lateral movement, box behind his great right jab, mix in combos, and had an effective parrying defense.

He spent the first half of the Briscoe fight on the backfoot, (some call it running), to which the commentator said "the agility of Marvin Hagler is making the difference in the fight".

Hagler looked sloppy in the early going against Roldan, so he started using more movement and boxing on the backfoot. The crowd booed, but Leonard, who was doing HBO commentary, said "Hagler needs to forget about the crowd and keep moving, he's doing better this way".

Hagler was backing up when he caught Scypion coming in, and hurt him this way, then he swarmed once he saw that he had hurt him.

Of course Hagler didn't have the outside boxing skills that Hearns had. That's why he fought him the way he did. Hagler swarmed Hearns because Hearns's reach and outside skills were too good. Hearns outboxed Benitez and Leonard. Hearns was also less adapted to middleweight, and Hagler wanted to use his superior strength and experience at the weight.

Unfortunately, since a lot of people watched Hagler-Hearns, and not the rest of Hagler's career, they think that's the way he normally fought.

Hagler for the great majority of his career was a boxer-puncher who boxed behind his jab and used the ring well, using lateral movement or boxing on the retreat very effectively. When he hurt his opponent, then he'd swarm.

 

I had Zab winning most of the first half of the fight and scored it 8 - 4. . .I could actually see 7 - 5.

considering the KD that you choose to ignore simply cause the ref didnt see it - thats hardy dominating.

Gatti was dominated, see the difference? You lose credibility with such nutthuging type claims of dominating.

 

Mayweather didn't dominate Judah, he won 8-4 IMO, but he won his rounds by much wider margins than Zab.

The rounds Judah won were much closer.

 

southpaw1974

How does height and reach = size?

 

So does that mean that Hearns at 6'1" with a 78" reach is bigger than Tyson at 5'11" and a 71" reach?

 

You loose credibility when you don't know what you're talking about. That KD in the 2nd was a flash KD, and Zab was outlanded in that round. Are you going to tell me Tito didn't dominate Reid because he was KD? The only rounds that could've been scored for Zab was 1,2,4, and 12. Round 1 was a feel out round, Round 12 neither did much either. Round 4 was a good round for both fighters. Round 2 was a good round for both fighters as well, but Zab definately won. Round 3 was all Floyd as was rounds 5-10. I scored the fight 9-3 Floyd. It could've also been scored 10-2,11-1 or 8-4. If you scored the fight 7-5, please tell me what 5 rounds Zab won.

 

I had an argument earlier. My coworker said that Sam Peter just couldn't overcome the significant size advantage Paul Williams would bring into the ring with him...beint 1/2" taller and having a 5" reach advantage. I said that was ludacris and Peter would decapitate the bean pole :deal

 

I've mentioned the "Hagler as a brawler myth" quite a few times so people can be educated.

I just find it strange how people can watch a fight or two of a particular boxer and think that's how a guy always fought. It's like watching Mayweather fight Judah and then thinking that Mayweather was always a boxer who came forward and applied pressure. Or people thinking that Hopkins always had a low workrate. People are surprised that Cotto is boxing now, as if Cotto had never done that before the Mosley fight.