Robinson Was Dropped 10 Times In His Career!!

Samurai, I think you've got yourself another signature.

 

Brilliant find!

 

Yes, LaMotta was a good 15 pounds heavier than Robinson, and a skilled fighter himself (despite what Raging Bull and revisionist history would tell you).

Guys who fight more often are more likely to lose and have off-nights.

If Mayweather were around back then, fighting 15-20 times a year, with his injury-prone hands, he'd most likely have some Ls on his record.

And for that matter, if Robinson were around today, with his business-like mentality and the way HBO pays fighters, he'd most likely be fighting less often, look for the big paydays (often at the expense of better matchups), and get criticized for it the way fighters such as Mayweather and Jones do.

 

Dude your a ****ing idiot to disgrace ray robinson, That guy had over 200 fights, with some of the toughest customers in history!!! Mayweather plays pattycake and fights every 1 and 1/2 years! Robinson and lamotta fought three times in 2 weeks!

Go fly a kite man, and get this **** out of this forum!!1

 

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If you were a student of the game you would know that there were a lot less divisions in Robinson's time. He went from LW to WW to MW to LHW. There weren't as many belts back then either. The only reason he didn't win a title at LHW was because of heat exhaustion in the 14th round. If they had all the divisions back then that they have now, and all the belts as well, who knows how many different divisions in which he would have won titles.

 

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If you're counting that, he's been dropped twice, as he was CLEARLY put on the canvas by Judah. The fact that the ref missed it doesn't change it.

This should be good.

You're a kindergartener facing a graduate here kid. Not to brag.

So what fighter that Mayweather has fought was on the level of Kid Gavilan?

He may have fought similar quantity comparitive to the amount of fights he's had, but nowhere NEAR as good quality. If you really want to continue this debate, I'll bring out Robinson's resume and we'll compare the two, at which point you should just concede defeat.

He struggles early on with Jesus Chavez and Hatton, arguably loses to Castillo, yet he's going to beat a MW(natural Light Heavyweight) in LaMotta? You really need to stop before you embarass yourself. Who am I kidding? You've done that more than enough.

Mayweather won 3 of those titles in "in between" classes, only two of them(LW and WW) in the original classes. Robinson was dominating Maxim at LHW for God's sake before succumbing to the scorching heat in the 14th. He'd have won 3 titles in 3 of the original weight classes. Had they had the 154 division back then, you can rest assured Robinson would've won titles there as well. Don't forget, this was in the era of one title per division, not 4 or whatever it is now. How many of those did Mayweather unify by the way?

As it stands, Mayweather has only faced 1 sure-fire HOF'er in an old Oscar. Guys like Hatton, Castillo, and Corrales are up for review.

 

Notable fighters on Ray Robinsons win resume

Sammy Angott x3
Fritzie Zivic x2
Jake LaMotta x5
Henry Armstrong
George Costner x2
Jimmy Doyle
Kid Gavalin x2
Bobo Olsen x2
Randy Turpin
Rocky Graziano x4
Rocky Castellani
Gene Fullmer
Carmen Basillo

Floyd Mayweathers most notable wins

Ricky Hatton
Diego Corrales
Oscar De la Hoya
Jose Luis Castillo 2x
Genaro Hernendaz

Pretty much every guy I listed on Robinsons is in the HOF these 5 guys are the only guys on Mayweathers resume that will POSSIBLY see the HOF I dont include Gatti. The only certain is DLH. Castillo/Corrales careers are done and there basically borderline. Ray Robinson shits on Floyd.

 

And his competition is much lesser than Robinson's. End of discussion.

 

Gatti is a HOFer possibly for his exicting fights not on his accomplishements. Mayweathers dominant win for a paper belt means **** especially since many guys have beaten Gatti in just as devestating fashion Manfredy,Baldomir,DLH,Gomez.

 

Gatti is and always has been a B level fighter, by the time he faced Floyd he was barely even that. If he's a HOF'er it's only because of the excitement he brought, as he was not world class.

Castillo's possible HOF status relies on the fact that he had a war with Corrales and pushed Mayweather close.

In fact, DLH is the only surefire HOF'er of that group.

 

you call gatti but not Chico a future HOF :verysad

you know ****:deal