Robinson won against Maxim

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  1. cslb

    cslb Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    They fight fifteen round fights?
     
  2. Jel

    Jel Obsessive list maker Full Member

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    But it's how the fight ended. It's not like he got dropped by a punch and blamed a KO on a sprained ankle. It wasn't an excuse- it was just what happened. It's clear on the film that he is out on his feet and not from a punch as he staggers back to his corner before it is called off. It wasn't made up after the fight.
     
  3. El Gallo Negro

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    They certainly were in Robinson era
     
  4. cslb

    cslb Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Club level Mexican fighters fought fifteen round fights in Mexico in Robinson’s era? Are you sure?
     
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  5. El Gallo Negro

    El Gallo Negro Active Member banned Full Member

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    Mexican fighters in general. I just threw the club level guys in there to really prove my point
     
  6. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    There were very few fifteen round fights in those conditions.
     
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  7. cslb

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    You do realize that only world championship fights went fifteen rounds back in the day?
     
  8. dinovelvet

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    But Maxim made him work hard knowing he would eventually blow a gasket. Thats what i read somewhere before.

    Joey let the smaller guy do all the work then put the foot down when Ray was knackered.

    Joey would have employed a different game plan if it was a 12 rounder , so saying Ray would have won easily is speculation.
     
  9. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Dude, you got to leave this one alone. Your facts are skewed. Moreover, back to Robinson, he was ahead in the fight - as everyone knew he was - by scores of 10-3, 9-3-1 and 7-3-3. Both UP and AP services had him ahead similarly. If this was a 'strategy' by the Maxim camp, it was a shot in the dark. The ultimate 'Hail Mary'. The truth of the matter was that Maxim was being outclassed, was well on his way to losing his title and the heat simply pulled a rabbit out of the hat for him. And if his team did plan this and said to him before the fight, "OK, Joey, let Ray punch you in the face for 13 rounds and we'll see if you can outlast him." Well, it might be time to look around for a better team.

    Still, I do think you have come up with a very good subject matter. What are legitimate excuses for losing a fight and what are simply...excuses?
     
  10. El Gallo Negro

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    Well you all are making it sound like Maxim was unjustly awarded the victory. Let's just go and make this a No Contest since Maxim obviously did not deserve the win
     
  11. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not saying that at all. This is in response to your initial post, which was:

    "No disrespect to SRR, but if Wilder had the lamest excuses of 2020 for losing to Fury, SRR certainly had the lamest excuse of his day claiming that the lights were too hot when he fought Maxim. That one about takes the cake to a whole nother level"

    I don't think there was anything lame at all, especially when he outlasted the referee by three rounds. Moreover, try to find an article from the day calling it a lame excuse by the writers that were there who witnessed and felt the oppressive heat. This is simply in response to your wording. Maxim won, but Ray had a legitimate excuse.
     
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  12. El Gallo Negro

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    No, I think it's a matter of WHO is making the excuse as to its legitamcy...
    Some people we give passes to and others not so much
     
  13. Richard M Murrieta

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    The heat was immense, even the referee was on the verge of collapse, he had to be replaced by another one. Sugar Ray Robinson was on his way to becoming the new World Light heavyweight Champion on that day. But the heat was the deciding factor in Sugar Ray losing by TKO 14 to Joey Maxim in this scheduled 15 round bout. Imagine if Robinson had won, he would have eventually faced Archie Moore.
     
  14. fists of fury

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    Maxim claimed that he paced himself, knowing how hot it was.
    Perhaps he did. He was leaving it awfully late for a comeback though.
    Anyway, he won. That's that.
     
  15. cslb

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    Robinson probably wouldn’t have faced Moore, he knew better.