Rocky: A Face Forward Fighter?

That is completely non sequiter to my post.
You are just piling on bad quotes for Rocky. Anyone can do the same for Ali, Frazier, Foreman, etc.

And I just realized your personal attack in your second reply to this thread.

You are either stupid, or just going senile.
Hang em up old fart.

 

Yes

For instance, right here:
https://streamable.com/1ivqy

His footwork is way more dynamic than Fraziers. Moving side to side against a strong opponent is clearly not something Rocky has an aversion to, evidenced by this fight, and moments like this.

He stalks Louis with short efficient steps while keeping advantageous and pressure range. When he goes for the hook, he bounces in range, and then out of range in one fluid motion, and then feints with his lead foot.

All while maintaining excellent balance and form.

 

The clip in this thread is roughly 2 minutes long.
So it's not a gif.

But explaining this to you is like trying to help my parents figure out new technology.

 

This is pretty much my point..
And to take it further, he was not just not crappy, he was good.
We should be able to observe and appreciate his skills, rather than have to defend the existence of them.

I know there are a lot of people here that do know boxing, that understand with clear footage that Rocky is more dynamic, skilled, and multi dimensional than soon to be modern stars like Beterbiev and Gassiev. Perhaps he wasn't when he was as green as them, but when he reached the world stage (basically when we have footage of him available) he is clearly a great highly refined boxer.

 

Most of the Louis fight resembles this style of fighting he employs.
Perhaps he's had wilder moments from this fight, or other fights? Do you have any examples in mind?

Also, just curious;
When you refer to his wide left hooks, do you think his punches were wider than, for instance, Furys?
Just want to better understand how your position on Rocky weighs against his peers.

 

Mechanically, no.

I'm of the opinion that if you're roughly, say, a top 20 all time boxer for your weight class, you don't really have weaknesses.

Your style is a package of emphases.
You can't do or be everything, so you have to make choices on what you're going to focus on.
Ali didn't punch to the body a lot. I don't think body punching was a weakness, I think his style just didn't emphasize it due to the focus on his special ability to move and punch from range.
Rocky didn't use quick side to side mobility outside the pocket like Ali and Holmes, because he was a pressure fighter. Do you call that a weakness? I don't think so, any more you would call Ali's lack of crouching a weakness.

I'm not the kind of guy that views Ali as having bad defense.
Joe Louis as having slow footwork.
George Foreman as being slow and crude.

At the very top level, you have people who have completely maxed out their potential, and have all reached a similar place. Kind of like 20 RPG characters who are all maxed out in skills, but in different areas on the skill tree.

Rocky didn't like to perform moves that were only practical when not throwing bombs.
Things like fast outside footwork.
Short, snapping counters.
Short fast combos.

He also didn't like to do anything that halted his pressure.
Things like playing defense for a minute.
Moving back while jabbing.
Reserving punches for big traps and big openings.