Rocky could dehydrate to super middleweight~

He was 179 lsb for his 20th fight, so at that weight, yeah, it's quite likely that he'd fight at 168 and move up for the bigger fights a couple of years down the line.

 

Where do you get that he was at least 17% body fat?
Also while most measurements, certainly height, tend to be exaggerate, some it is the opposite.
I think sometimes this is laziness, & Rocky looked bigger than that even though the black & whote film deemphasized size. He did not have the same size thighs as Holyfield, who was all upper body.

And consider that both he & Tyson are listed as having only a 43" chest, 45" expanded.
And having a 16" biceps.
Both were lean by any normal standards at between 215-220, Holyfield at least used PEDs & was likely not even 6' 2", Tyson maybe 5' 10 & a 1/2".

Read the body measurments of guys carrying that much upper body muscle, even lean.
The only part of those numbers that seems like it could be on point is *if* they were measured without flexing their arms.

 

No, what we're saying is that a man being strong at 185 lbs can sweat out 10 lbs of water before the weigh-in without much problems at all.

In fact it's unusual for fighters's that size not to drain that much water.

 

Well there the same height. Difference is steroids and other “modern” work out methods.

 

LHW is def a possibility today. I just don’t think he would be able to do it and be As affective. 168 seems a stretch going from a natural 210-220 to that low.

 

It doesn't matter what he went down from, what matters is what his preferred weight in the ring was.

In his biggest fights it was around 185 lbs. So the question is does he sweat out 10 lbs of water, which just about all fighters his size do today - at least, in order to be able to fight at a weight class that still counts as one of the more prestigious ones? Or does he fight in the less prestigous CW division where he typically will be outweighed about 30 lbs?

The answer is pretty straightforward to me.

 

If you actually knew anything about Marciano, it is not nonsense. It is certainly not nonsense because of your opinion about light heavyweights.

 

Because he fought better at the lower weight. It was the secret of his stamina.

 

To be honest, the concept that Rocky, renowned for his disciple, couldn't sweat out about 10 lbs before the weigh-in is actually absurd. Kovalev, hardly known for his discipline, sweats out more, not to mention someone like Yarde. Even smaller guys like Spence and Crawford sweat out more than 10 lbs. Of course Rocky could do that without much problem.

 

All I need to know is that he fought around 185 lbs. Sweating out 10 lbs of water is not a problem for a man that size.

If Rocky shed off 30 lbs before reaching that weight doesn't matter. He would still have water in his body and that water could be sweated out. It's as easy as that.

 

It is, because he already sweated down to the bone to get to his lightest possible weight for his stamina. If you knew anything at all about Marciano, you would know this.

This forum is filled with people who have read every book, article, and watched every special on the man, and they are all laughing at you for refusing to be educated and flaunting your ignorance.

 

Actually it wasn’t that easy for him to get to that weight. One of the reasons he retired . He was not naturally that light. Had to work for it. Would not working out with weights and maintaining speed and probably more explosiveness ag a heavier weight be just as realistic? I don’t think LHW would be out of the question but I really don’t believe he would be affective . Would take to much out of him. He performed terribly when he came in ag 180 said he was to weak.

 

I think he could lose a very small amount of fat McGrain, not much as all.
Having abs is strongly correlated with body fat.
*But* it is imperfect. I has a workout partner who went to the same college 20 uears after me, was an ex-wrestler, & whose waist was a max of 30".
He had little definition, & I do not think that he had abs-at least lof he did, little to speak of.

On the other hand I was relatively fat. Even though I presume that the highest readings I got from body fat tests were wrong-since many are cheap & do not well distinguish between fat & muscle-I have ~ a 40" waist now, & it was around 42" at my heaviest (& then I was eating 5/6 times a day for bulk). Oh pants sizes typically lie about our true waist size, often by 3 or more inches, to accommodate vanity & delusions, lol!
But I always had at least a faint, asymmetrical 4 pack.

Due to whatever combination of doing endless sit ups as an adolescent when I was school champion including most in 30 seconds in grade school, a minute years later...
And my natural proportion of visceral vs. subcutaneous fat.

Does that mean I was leaner than Rocky, even in the 240's? Hell no!
I was & am fairly muscular & overweight. Likely ~ 28% BF at that size, now no lower than 20-25%.
In recent photos when doing curls outside you could see faint stomach definition, & still when turned to the side, a definite stomach below the navel.

Ab definition is an imprecise way to estimate body fat.
Just like BMI applies to most. but due to variations in bone structure-& mostly muscle mass-it does not apply to some. And may not reflect anywhere near reality for others. Especially some weightlifters & professional athletes.