Rocky Grazino's Record ...

The problem with this thread (and I haven't read every post) is that I don't know that many view Graziano as anything more than what he was--a very colorful personality who was an exciting, never say die puncher, but who was a limited fighter for a champion.

Few rate him that highly, I think, in all time ratings.

That said, he did knock out three men who were champions when he fought them, and had Robinson on the floor.

LaMotta and Cerdan, and Zale for that matter, are perhaps better subjects for overrated discussions one way or another as all are often put high in middleweight rankings.

 

"Low rent" is somebody masquerading as a historian when really all they are is another agenda-ridden goof like the rest of us.

 

He, I don't proclaim Rocky Graziano to be a great fighter, but I would bet ANYTHING you would wager that the rising young Rocky who flattened Harold Green, Freddy Red Cochrane [2]
Marty Servo, Billy Arnold and a guy you never saw Charlie Fusari
amongst others would have kod a Gatti or Mickey Ward for damn sure...If the volcanic Graziano was to lose it would be to a cutie boxer not to a Ward or Gatti who could never outslug Rocky. NEVER...cheers

 

I agree that he isnt top 5 or anything, but i think he was a little better than decent, or even just good. He was very good fighter, one of the best welterweights of his time and a good name to have on any resume, admittedly notwithstanding the fact that he was a welterweight figthing a middleweight.

 

Arnold wasn't a "major scalp". But it was a decent win at the time for Graziano. Some people thought he was robbed against Zivic, who was still a serviceable force.
Graziano might not have many "major scalps" but he has several decent wins.

I didn't know it boiled down to "where" on an all-time list we'd rate him. I don't have a list.
My case was clear. I take Graziano seriously. You said you don't. And I don't even think he's revered quite as highly in the way you are saying.
I suppose we must agree to disagree. :good

 

Exactly. :good

 

The reason the Zale fights were so exciting is because Zale was past prime, otherwise there would have only been the one fight.

 

So true mc. Furthermore Rocky Graziano who I loved to see in the ring would have coped very badly with the likes of a bunch of MWS as Fred Apostoli, Freddie Steele, Al Hostak, Solly Kreiger, MW Billy Conn, etc, all pre WW2 era middleweights...