Rocky, Liston and Briggs in a round robin matchup.

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  1. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Honestly what fighter doesn’t have “padding” in their first several fights? Especially ones with NO amateur career. You know he had no amateur career so why care about his first few fights? I don’t personally care about any fighters pre prime fights including Listons loss to The great Marty Marshal. Liston has more wins against prime fighters without a doubt for that he deserves credit. I personally take old joe Louis, Charles, Walcott, Layne, Moore wins over Patterson, williams, Folley and two horrible showings against Ali though.
     
  2. mcvey

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    QUOTE="Gazelle Punch, post: 19619878, member: 119419"]Honestly what fighter doesn’t have “padding” in their first several fights? Especially ones with NO amateur career. You know he had no amateur career so why care about his first few fights? I don’t personally care about any fighters pre prime fights including Listons loss to The great Marty Marshal. Liston has more wins against prime fighters without a doubt for that he deserves credit. I personally take old joe Louis, Charles, Walcott, Layne, Moore wins over Patterson, williams, Folley and two horrible showings against Ali though.[/QUOTE]
    Everyone will have is own criteria,we obviously have differing ones.
    We aren't talking about," his first several fights ," he was still feasting on this calibre of opponent after 22 fights!
    You Rockista's kill me!
     
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  3. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    …..once he gets inside? he'll have to pay for that territory, and the price is too high for Rock to pay
     
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  4. Seamus

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    Liston stops Marciano very early. Rocky was vulnerable early and Sonny knew how to close matters when he smelled blood

    Liston takes a boring but wide decision over Briggs.

    Briggs stops Marciano late as Marciano tires from carrying the load that is Briggs.
     
  5. Nighttrain

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    The Rock finds a way, knocks them both out in the first round . . . simultaneously. He then eats a 3 pound steak and uses everything in his luggage on the waitress.
     
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  6. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Feel free to do your own matchup in a thread sometime.
     
  7. RockyJim

    RockyJim Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Perfect!!!
     
  8. Seamus

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    48 of his 67 fights have ended within 3. It's hard to stop them late when they are already stopped.

    That said, his belt winning victory over Liakhovich is something like I had in mind.
     
  9. BlackCloud

    BlackCloud I detest the daily heavyweight threads Full Member

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    Idiot
     
  10. Seamus

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    So we should give no credence to Rocky's victory over Walcott for the title.
     
  11. Seamus

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    There absolutely can be a comparison made. Two powerpunchers pressuring an increasingly retreating opponent, wearing him down and catching him at the tail end of the fight. Just because 10,000 tribute videos a year aren't made to Briggs' memory doesn't mean both fights don't share that in common. If you give credit to one winner, you must give credit to both.
     
  12. GOAT Primo Carnera

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    Everything, just every word and aspect of your posts is exactly reversed.

    The 100% opposite is true. The correct version should be:

    "Marciano is tailor made for running into big punchers Liston and Briggs. Marciano was too one dimensional and lacks the cleverness for me to see him landing clean enough to take LIston out and Liston’s inside game was very good. Briggs on the other hand gave Lennox all he could handle and would easily be a champ in the 50’s."
     
  13. Seamus

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    OK. If we're going to match worst performances, 177 pound Lowry had Marciano reeling all over the ring. What would a Briggs, who is at least 60 pounds heavier and a noted puncher, do in that situation? Are we happy now?
     
  14. GOAT Primo Carnera

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    The Briggs debacle has nothing to do with the matured version that fought Lennox. Its obvious to see one fighter couldn´t be put away by SHW power puncher Lennox Lewis, while the other crawled all over the ring against Wilson from nothing.
    After Lewis, Briggs became very very heavy and lost what he used to be. Briggs physical pinnacle was extremely thin.
     
  15. lufcrazy

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    I actually agree that the loss to Lewis was the best we ever saw of Briggs.