Rocky Marciano fights Oliver McCall

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  1. Fuzzykat

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    Marciano easily. McCall would have lost to a lot of top ten fighters in his own time.
     
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  2. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Moore's KD against Marciano is one of the most beautiful counter punches I've ever seen. I don't give a **** that he wasn't as big or as strong as McCall, you need great chin to get up as easily after that shot as Marciano did.
     
  3. Tonto62

    Tonto62 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Which 200+ = bangers are you referring to?

    Do you believe Moore ,Walcott ,and Layne hit as hard as Morrison,Bruno,Ruddock?
    Layne never stopped a ranked heavyweight, his best stoppage win is over chinny 180lbs Satterfield,who could comfortably make 175lbs when he wasn't partying.
    Moore has a great ko record but closer inspection shows around 88 of his victims were unheralded nobodies and about40 of them were under 175lbs.
    Moore's best stoppage wins at heavyweight are ;
    Besmanoff,Baker,Lavorante,Rischer,Rademacher. Serviceable wins but hardly legends.
    He was a great LHvy puncher I think you would agree there is a difference?
    Would you rather take a right hand punch from Moore , Lewis? Or Bruno?
    A left hook from Walcott , Morrison ? Or Ruddock?
    Who gives a ****? Well when you say he had a granite chin and I know it wasn't tested against 200lbs +bangers I do, and so does everyone else with any common sense!
     
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  4. Tonto62

    Tonto62 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    I think both would be tougher opposition for Marciano than,Cokkell, and Lastarza .
     
  5. Seamus

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    This is ludicrous. Who did Qawi ever beat of any value at heavyweight?
     
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  6. Tonto62

    Tonto62 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Moore fought Valdes twice he not only never ko'd him in either fight, he never even floored him!
    Ruddock was "over the hill?" He was 28 years old!
    Mason wasn't a puncher? he scored 34 kos in his 37 wins for an 89% ko record! I saw 14 of his fights from ringside he was a banger!
    You just rant and ramble on about jack **** don't you? Lionel Butler was a very dangerous puncher,he just wasnt that good a fighter.Joe Louis was not a big puncher by the time he fought Marciano and everyone but you knows this.
    Now you 've been corrected on several points which of course you will not acknowledge, so just **** off you bloody halfwit!
     
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  7. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    But we've have had cruiser sized heavies beat super heavyweight sized fighters before.
     
  8. Tonto62

    Tonto62 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Moore did not stop Valdes in2 fights can you at least admit that you were wrong on that?
    If you have an 89% ko record you are a PUNCHER!
    Butler was a journeyman ,he was also a very hard hitter. Louis stopped just one of his previous 4 opponents before he fought Marciano,Lee Savold, who was as washed up as he was!

    You really are a stupid man!
     
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  9. Tonto62

    Tonto62 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    But no cruiser sized champion for how long?
     
  10. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    That's because you have to be at least 200 to compete as a heavyweight. That's a big obstacle
     
  11. Tonto62

    Tonto62 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    You can challenge for it at a weight below 200lbs.
     
  12. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Well McCall isn't a Wlad or a prime Tyson
     
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  13. Tonto62

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    I've never suggested he was! In fact I haven't even made a pick here!
     
  14. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    The reason I said that was because I'm convinced that in one off fights, under 200 pound fighters can beat over 200 pound fighters...see RJJ vs John Ruiz. RJJ weighed in at 193 pounds, Ruiz 224.

    The Tyson's, K2 brothers, Lewises and Bowes etc are cream of the crop over 200 pounders
     
  15. Tonto62

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    I'm convinced that 188/19lbs Jack Dempsey beats a lot of 200lbs+ fighters too.