Rocky Marciano Film Study

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by red cobra, May 15, 2018.


  1. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Who did Kitone Lave knock out who was as good as hurricane Jackson? Eagerly waiting your reply choke job

    Admit you’re wrong with that statement. Valdes knocked out better fighters

    I love proving you wrong, you’re so full of arrogance
     
  2. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Lave was a big man. Potentially bigger than Tua at 6 foot. The most he weighed was 211lb because he trained when he did. If he trained when Tua did it is much more likely he would be at least as heavy as Tua ever was.

    Surly it’s easier to imagine this than it is to believe that the treacherous seas and sunkissed beaches genetically enhanced later generations of Polynesians as @SuzieQ49 says. :lol:

    which is how Tua would have looked had he gained weight before the steroid era.

    it was not necessary to bulk up in Rockys day. It was in Tuas day. So he bulked up.

    yes there was something preventing Marciano from doing that it was not yet trendy to bulk up in his days.

    Shall I attempt to lay bricks with “treacherous sea” type theories then?
     
  3. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Kitione Lave improved on one of Nino Valdes best wins didn’t he?

    Overall Nino beat better guys. For sure. But it isn’t incorrect to say the Polynesian heavyweight wasn’t an untapped talent back in the day.
     
  4. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Good glad you admitted you’re wrong. Hurricane Jackson was better than among Lave knocked out.

    The only thing laughable is your feeble attempt to cover up your trolling that’s been going on for years.

    You said Marciano has a 50% chancec against a prime foreman right? :rolleyes:
     
  5. SuzieQ49

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    You make up fairytales all the time when it comes to Marciano and his opponents...you should be used to it. Everyone knows you’re true agenda and your real reason you post on this forum.


    And I stand by this statement “A very active lifestyle and a healthy plant and sea based diet allowed strong men and women to be forged”
     
  6. SuzieQ49

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    Choke Job will ignore this and make up some crap about how 170-190lb men can compete with modern superheavyweights

    It all ties back to choke job romanticizing his hero...rocky Marciano
     
  7. SuzieQ49

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    Yeah keep telling us how great the 1951 Joe Louis was compared to modern big men :rolleyes:
     
  8. choklab

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    It’s the only honourable thing to do.

    what has this got to do with boxing? Inventing theories to support a reason why an overdeveloped Polynesian is bigger in the steroid era than he would be at an earlier time? Everyone is heavier after that point because the training changed. Everyone knows this.

    Hang on, this is a Rocky Marciano thread isn’t it?

    I’ve never tried to say 1951 Joe Louis was greater than he actually was. He was a number one contender. Winning fights. Knocking out contenders. ...and still not as good as he used to be.
     
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  9. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    Ploynesians are genetically blessed for muscle, but there's still limits to how much muscle you can carry. Tua certainly carried quite a bit of fat on top of his muscle. Probably still more musclar than Rocky, but I don't think as much as the weights alone.
     
  10. mcvey

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    "it was not trendy to bulk up in those days"lol = HILARIOUS!
    Too late now, your wall just collapsed!
     
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  11. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    THe only hilarity was the stuff about treacherous seas developing the Polynesian race to a higher magnitude of physical development than the rest of civilisation.
     
  12. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Sorry ,I can't take you seriously here.
     
  13. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    His agenda is clear

    Degrade Sonny Liston

    Put down any victim of Sonny Liston

    Hype up any opponent Sonny Liston missed out on fighting

    Romantisize Marciano

    Overrate any of Marcianos opponents to make Marciano look better
     
  14. FrankinDallas

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    It was eating human flesh for generations that made the Polynesians muscular. Just like the Aztecs eating their victims made modern day Mexican boxers throw massive hooks to the body. I'm waiting for a boxer to come out of Papua New Guinea...they would be awesome. Read Jared Diamond's book "Guns Germs and Steel" to fully understand how PNG men are more physically dominating than Western men...who didn't have human meat on the table (except for the Donner Pass incident, but I digress...)
     
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  15. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Boxed Ears?
     
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