Rocky Marciano Film Study

Louis was posting comparable results against common opponents with all of them.

Agramante went the distance with Henry just like he did with Louis. Same with Bob Baker he went the distance with Agramante as well. Charles went the distance with Brion just like he did with Louis. Beshore went 10 more rounds with Charles than he did with Louis. Louis had beat Walcott the champion. Layne had a harder fight with Brion than Joe Louis did. Louis beat Savold and Beshore as quick as Rocky had.

It’s not difficult to see where comeback Louis fits in here. Back then all the contenders fought each other. On paper Comeback Louis compared well with all of them. Only Marciano and Charles beat him.

 

Chok is certainly the color of what you are trying to peddle in this thread to say the least.

 

All I'm getting from Chok is that Joe Louis was still an elite fighter. A shadow of his former self, but that shadow was still elite in the context of the era. I'm not getting anything from him to suggest he's attempting to make Louis look better than he was.

I'm not one to speak for another man so I'll leave it at that.

 

I'm glad we're on the same page man

 

Being ranked in the top 10 for the most part means elite fighter. Stop changing the goalposts.

 

Cool.

 

Tua as an amateur before he gained a lot of weight was under 201 pounds. Tua looks more like 5'9" tall to me. IMO, Rocky was a shade taller. Tua was not an his ideal weight 55 pounds heavier than Maricano.

 

Marciano fought as a pro under 180lbs. At the age of 23 ,for the Ruiz fight Tua scaled 225lbs. Here is the fight,does he look fat?

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Christalmighty, people bringing up Tua's weight when he was a teenager is really stupid.

 

And here is a tubby 201lb Tua on his pro debut before he began the body building.

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Well Tua turned pro at age 20, at 201 pounds. What do you think his ideal weight was? Far less than 250 pounds.

 

You said, " The difference between Tua and Marciano? About 55 pounds! " If your using the Ruiz fight, that is not correct! You're only off by 15 pounds.

If you use Tua's debut before he accumulated body fat, the difference between them is about 15 pounds.

 

At 5’9” his BMI recommended weight should be no more than 187lb. Naturally athletes can be heavier but not 65lb more.

 

This thread is nearly reaching the gold standard of having gems of posts laced throughout.

 

Nope you’re wrong. YouTube footage of Louis Brion II is actually louis Brion I at a different angle