Rocky Marciano has a very good case for #1...

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  1. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    hey groove why dont u tell us all how floyd patterson is better than rocky marciano. lol.
     
  2. groove

    groove Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Fogey gimme something better. Jimmy Ellis gave Bonavena a boxing lesson. He was nowhere near the same class as Ali in 1967. How many fights did Ali have in 66? Mildenburger never lasted the distance so he must have been a tough fight for ali. that's the best you can come up with. you dissappoint me.
     
  3. groove

    groove Well-Known Member Full Member

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    in think rocky is better than patterson. one thing i give rocky credit for is will power and i think that is very important cuz a less skilled fighter can beat a better one with that one skill as rocky proved time and time again. don't underestimate will power but ali was great in that department aswell.
     
  4. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    wait so ur not the youtube poster named "groove" whos been posting on marciano videos talking **** about how marciano ducked floyd cause floyd would have kayoed him?
     
  5. groove

    groove Well-Known Member Full Member

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    no my username is 'grooveharder'.
     
  6. OLD FOGEY

    OLD FOGEY Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Mildenberger wasn't that tough of a fight. But then how tough really was Bonavena in 1970. Ali would have won it by a wide decision.

    Ellis did make Bonavena look bad, but Bonavena looked much better than Ellis did against Frazier in 1966 and 1968, and he also looked better against Ali. Bonavena was noted as a guy who liked partying more than training. He might have taken Ellis lightly, or perhaps it was just one of those things with Ellis having the perfect style to handle Bonavena.
     
  7. groove

    groove Well-Known Member Full Member

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    yeah ali woulda won oscar easy by UD in 67 but not in 1970 after 3 1/2 years out. to think otherwise is foolish - he got lucky in the 15th but the rest of the fight tells its own story. ali never came close to losing his title before the lay-off. ellis wouldn't stand a chance against that ali but he had no trouble with bonavena. ellis and ali were quite similar in style just ellis was lighter.
     
  8. Bummy Davis

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    Do you think the Ali that fought Frazier and Bonavena would have been dropped by Cooper, I think Ali felt stronger,was stronger and even tried to mix more. The best Ali I ever saw was vs Liston 1 (but what was up with Liston) Frazier 1 and the best for me was the Foreman fight, how he used his smarts but other than Liston he fights his pre comeback were not as good as his comeback opponents....thats my opinion Ali is one of my top 3 but is he GOD, No, was he Superman, No, Now if that makes you laugh or that makes you cry...have fun
     
  9. OLD FOGEY

    OLD FOGEY Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ellis showed he had no chance against the post-layoff Ali either. Nor against Frazier. Bonavena did better against both.
     
  10. bernie4366

    bernie4366 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Rocky Marciano couldn't carry Holmes' jockstrap. Larry was correct.

    Rocky worshippers are completely delusional.
     
  11. Mega Lamps

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    Actually Holmes apologized for that and said he did not mean to put Marciano down like that. He was just feeling good about himself and was confident, so he said that. He did not mean it about Marciano.
     
  12. sugarkills

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    Larry is just jealous of the greatest fighter in history. The truth is Holmes' couldn't carry Rocky's jockstrap because its too heavy for him. Rocky, aside from being the best, also had the largest balls in boxing history as well.

    Larry should kept his flabby mouth shut. 48-1 doesn't compare to 49-0 :D

    There is NOTHING delusional about a Rocky fan. The fact remains he is the ONLY undefeated heavyweight champ ever, while Larry just keeps making a fool of himself. I'm glad Tyson knocked him on his fatass.
     
  13. Bokaj

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  14. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    but renaldo snipes could?
     
  15. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    How about:

    Sugar Ray Robinson - (3years and lost left right and centre, losing 6 fights in 4years)

    Jim Jeffries - 6years

    Dempsey - 3years, loses twice and got lucky against Sharkey

    Tyson -3years in the can, becomes a shadow of his former self

    Tito Trinidad - 3years