Rocky Marciano hit harder than Sonny Liston

Liston wasnt the type to hold back in sparring, though I sent that not using it as a proof, merely the best testimony you could get between the two

 

“No one had given me any information on how to spar, so every time the bell would ring, I'd try to fight.”
Heavily implies Foreman was going all out while Liston wad holding back.
https://www.*******.com/george-foreman-discusses-friendship-with-sonny-liston--47293

idk why my link for striked? Maybe cuz its a competitor to this forum? Idk..,

 

As a 7-0 nobody against a major player in the division? I doubt he would do anything to upset his apple cart. And we're relying one of the crustier, grumpier dudes the division ever saw. Not giving that a lot of credence when so many people, from Patterson to Foreman to Wepner proclaimed Sonny to be such a force of nature.

 

This wasnt an experienced liston with a green Foreman, rather an experienced Charles giving a beatdown to a green Liston, Liston would be swinging much harder

 

Read what i said. "For whatever its worth". That testament isnt gospel. I said I thought Liston hit harder with one punch. Youre preaching to a believer. I can pull up a billion people describing Marciano as a force of nature as well.

 

Not a force of nature but a plugger, a lunch pail guy, brought his hard hat and not much else.

Kudos to the lil' feller.

 

We're twins

 

Both could put a man out with one shot, or turn a fight with a single punch. But even leaving aside the weight, one of these guys clearly knocked fighters dead more often in short order, & one clearly wore many more men down with round-by-round brutality.

I’d say the case Marciano hit harder is not exactly outlandish, but well short of likely.

 

Marciano is definitely way up there for P4P punching power.

 

I mean they sparred but it was an extremely green.

 

They sparred.

 

They didn't hit the same way. Marciano was a rock-hard smaller man with stone hands who punched with maximum laser force. Liston's punches were the thudding type. Liston intimidated, overpowered and discouraged guys and stopped them before he could seriously hurt them. He didn't need to be cruel the way Rocky was. Marciano battered opponents and weakened them until they could no longer resist, then he drilled and ruined them.

 

you do realize he'd knock you out with one punch right

like you are a very condescending individual for a random

Marciano had one punch knockout power and was a very gifted boxer, objectively

 

Yeah, I know. They made a movie inspired by The Stone.

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Both hit hard enough to knock any opponent flat if they connected clean, so I'd say they have comparable punching power.

Here is a piece in 1958 with Sonny Liston talking about his plans on climbing the ladder to become heavyweight champion. Julio Mederos gives the opinion that Liston and Satterfield had comparable power, which seems about right.

Charles (Sonny) Liston wants to win the world heavyweight boxing championship, but he want to take the long road to get there.

He took a step toward a title chance, though, last night when he finished trial-horse Julio Mederos, a rugged Cuban with a third round knockout in the weekly television match.

Mederos, who has won only 21 of 43 pro bouts, was prevented from coming out for the third round by the ring-side physician, Dr. Irving N. Slottm due to a cut completely through his lip on the lower left side.

"I got him with a combination punch to do that," Liston said, "and I heard his jaw crack when I hit him. I could feel it give."

Mederos explained that Liston knocked his mouthpiece askew with a left jab and then drove a tooth through his lip. He had no complaint because the bout was stopped.

"He's a good prospect," Mederos said, "and he hits about as hard as anybody I've fought. He and Bob Satterfield both hit about the same."

(Associated Press writer Charles Chamberlain also paid tribute to Liston as a boxer and puncher. He wrote:

("It is refreshing these days to see a heavyweight who looks like he can fight.")

("Sonny Liston of Philadelphia eventually may prove to be the prospect needed to pump life into the division.")

("For all of his 204 pound, Liston by comparison to some of the heavyweights around these days displayed poise, grace, power, and confidence - and a head-rocking left jab that cut through Mederos' lower lip.")

It was the eleventh straight win for Liston, who was the 4-to-1 favorite for the match, and his eighteenth win in 19 pro bouts. He won the western, national and international Golden Gloves championships in 1953 before turning pro.

"I don't have any real plans," he said, "except that I don't want to go after the championship too early. I want to work my way up the ladder for the title chance. I don't want to fight somebody right up at the top right away. But I'd just as soon take about after the first five or six in the ratings."

Liston, a St. louisan now calling Philadelphia his home, was in complete control against Mederos. His jabs kept the Cuban off balance throughout the first round and twice he staggered his foe with right hands.

For the final 30 seconds of the round, he had Mederos covering up in a corner and still was connecting. Mederos shook his head groggily when he sank to his stool in the corner between rounds.

"I thought I could knock him out then," Liston said, "but I heard somebody say there wasn't 10 seconds left, so I didn't see much use in doing it. So I backed away."

Mederos was stronger in the second round and twice landed sneak right hands to Liston's head. But Liston said "I only felt one of them and they just stopped my pattern of attack."

It was Mederos' 19th loss in against 21 wins.

Trainer Jim Wilson said Liston will go to Los Angeles but a fight on the Coast has not yet been made.

"I think he could handle either Zora Folley or Eddie Machen," Wilson added.

Paid attendance was 181 in a total of 931 ringside attendance, and the gross gate was $398.

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