Rocky Marciano hit harder than Sonny Liston

He doesn't want to hear facts.This is a man who counts Ali hitting the canvas against Wepner as a legitimate KD.

 

Marciano probably hit as hard as anyone up to190lbs.
Liston would have decapitated him.
No short armed ,short.come forward, slowish swarmer,defensively porous,and weighing185lbs who cut easily, is beating Liston.

 

Charles said the hardest he was hit was by Satterfield and Marshall.

 

Moore
Curtis “Hatchetman” Sheppard – The Man Archie Moore Said Hit Him The Hardest

Source: Curtis “Hatchetman” Sheppard – The Man Archie Moore Said Hit Him The Hardest - Latest Boxing News (https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-ne...-archie-moore-said-hit-him-the-hardest/182658)
Charles
“I had a tougher fight against Jersey Joe Walcott when he knocked me out to win the title,” Ezzard added painfully. “Marciano doesn’t punch as hard as Walcott. He doesn’t really hit hard—but he’s a strong guy, all right.”
Lastarza
"The second fight, ruined me. It was easy at first. Then in maybe the sixth round I blocked a punch with my left arm and my left was gone. I blocked one of his right hands and that was it. I hurt that arm in training and when I blocked that punch I damaged blood vessels in my arm. I stood there and took a beating until the 11th. "If I had one word to describe Rocky it would be relentless. I would throw a right hand, he would throw a right hand. But the difference was Rocky would throw 10. He didn't hit me the hardest, but he hit me the most often. Don't get me wrong, Rocky was a great fighter. He was tough and he never stopped throwing punches."

PS Folley was 25 when he fought Valdes 25 20=4 years difference

 

He would have no chance against Liston, but like I said he’d have come right at him like the British cavalry at Balaclava, with similar results.

 

Neither of which are Liston, thank you

I dont particularly believe either of them hit harder than Liston or Marciano, but what Charles says is what Charles says

 

Kudryashov, and likely a dozen others, hit harder than Marciano at that weight range but we're really splitting cnt hairs at this point.

 

And here comes two exceptions: Marshall and Leotis Martin, Marciano is miles ahead of both of them.

Liston never met a man who could give and take a punch with both hands and wouldn't stop.

 

Williams had 35 pro fights, that's not inexperienced, Patterson and Tyson were chamos at that age with less fight, and so was Muhammad Ali.

Also it doesn't help that Satterfield lost 2 his last fight and that was a LHW knocked by MW Jake LaMotta.

Williams is at his best at least 25-30 pounds heavier man.

So no, Williams was not inexperienced plus he had size advantage on his side against LHW with no chin.

 

I'll start with the basic factual errors. Neither Ali nor Patterson were champs at the age of 20.

Erratic as he was, Bob Satterfield was arguably the most destructive puncher of his weight who ever lived. Less than a year before facing Williams he flattened the 214 lb, #4 contender Bob Baker in a single round. Unlike Williams, Baker was in his physical prime and had actually had a chance to train for the fight.

As for experience, there's more to it than simple number of fights. A man can't go from novice to veteran in the space of a year just by knocking over a clubfighter every couple of weeks. As I've said, Williams was just two and a half years into his professional career, without even the foundation of an amateur career to build on. This is why Satterfield was the betting favourite, and described by the press as being "a far more experienced fighter".

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I was replying to a poster who wanted proof of my quotes .I provided it x3 What you or I think is really irrelevant,neither of us were ever hit by the likes of ;
Marshall,Satterfield,Durelle,Sheppard,all of whom have been named as having hit those named harder.

 

Sensible, logical post!

 

Any fat on those I mentioned?
Bloated my left bollock!
Mathis never stopped anyone worth talking about,you make very disingenous statements.
I suppose Marciano hit as hard as Joshua and Dubois too?