Rocky Marciano hit harder than Sonny Liston

Absolutely doubtless. My three-year-old son (at the time) hurt me more than several grown men have hitting me in the face (I worked as a bouncer a few years). So much is in expectation vs not seeing the punch coming.

 

Nah he’s just a more modern then those guys at the club.

 

Prime Ney, Jr. vs Rocky Marciano thread on its way.

 

Yeah but still that does not mean that he was not experienced, again Patterson and Tyson were beasts at that age and Foreman was too but Cleveland at that age had 35 pro fights and was a pro for 6 years.
So there is not experience excuse this time.

 

You can't use edge cases like Tyson and Patterson to make a point. The great many of heavyweights, even the best, are nowhere near prime at 20. That's just provable ad nauseum.

 

Yes Ezz, conversing with him is somewhat akin to enduring a long, slow and painful lobotomy without any anaesthetics.

The medical services one can now avail themselves of online are amazing.

Brain cells are definitely lost with each and every exchange shared with him. Call me a masochist.

You’re so right about stepping up the competition.

In the face of BF, whilst losing much needed brain power, I’m also gaining a false sense of ego and bravado - which will make me easy meat the next time I debate anyone with even just half a brain.

 

I think his issues go well beyond any possible language barriers.

 

I could slap my dogs paw all over the key and hit more facts than Dumbo.

 

JT - Please get your dawg to sign up and become a member.

Your dog would be more than smart enough in his own right to occupy the likes of BF while the rest of us can return to sane and more meaningful discussions.

Or, would putting your dog in such a position be viewed as animal cruelty?

 

Show one single post in which I state Marciano was not a hard puncher. Do I need to post multiple quotes from me where I say he probably hit as hard as anyone under 190lbs?
Post my"baseless accusations" and we can discuss them.
You are the classic Rocky Fan Boy who cannot bear any evaluation of Marciano that is not 100% hero worship.
Anyone who does not wholeheartedly agree with you is necessarily a hater.
You are disputing the opinions of men who fought Marciano,not my opinions!
Marciano was not impeded by," back problems" going into the Moore fight, that's just BS.
He had an excellent training camp,and I have interviews he gave from Grossingers to boxing writers emphasizing it.
I've been dealing with you Fanboys all the time I have been on the internet .
I started watching films of Marciano's fights in the middle 60's,I have 4 biographies on him and have interviewed Don Cockell about the Rock.
You are not going to teach me anything new about him.
Now post my "baseless accusations" ,and we can debate them publicly.

 

What the hell are you on about lol? Did you misclick my post or something Mac?

 

Yes,sorry J , my reply was for Boxer Boxer Fan Boy.

 

Wowee wowzers yippidy doooooo

 

How it's provable?
Yes they are nowhere prime at 20 when they are not fighting pro fights for many years.

Cleveland was again pro for 6 years with 35 pro fights so even at age of 20, he was experienced not green.

 

HE WAS NOT PRIME.END OF!