Rocky Marciano or Jack Johnson who was the greater fighter?

i think it gives the answer , doesn't it ?

 

I have checked, TODAY.

From Tracy Callis,Burns was rumoured to be suffering the after effects of INFLUENZA,his source Larry Roberts historian.
Wikipeadia also carries this.
Burns was168 lbs for the fight with Johnson.
According to Dan Cuoco Director of the IBRO, Burns best weight was 174 lbs, considering his height, that would be about right imo.So not a huge weight difference.

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Jack and Joe in an exhibition for War Bonds.[Jack still on top]

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Could Johnson cut up Rocky like this ?

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I'd pick Johnson.

A fight would be interesting though. Tying up a guy with such powerful short arms would not be easy.

Two great fighters but I think Johnson would prevail.

 

Jack Johnson all the way. RM fighting old wasted men, ducking real contenders.

 

Johnson obviously because he's the bomb.

 

Like who?

 

Well VITLAY losing an arm would be life threatening, I suspect WALDO would kill him if he reduced his reach-around options by 50%.

You forgot to mention Lewis's illegal beard too by the way, that was a pivotal factor in the fight, apparently. I think someone should start a poll to predict what the excuses will be if VITLAY loses again this weekend, I see Mendoza has already come up with the obvious one but I like to think that the Klit-ites aren't so past their prime that they can't come up with something more inventive than "he got old", that's nowhere near outrageous enough for my liking.

 

I'll take Marciano....Johnson couldn't hurt The Rock...and he's got nothing to keep Marciano at bay.....Rocky was a force of nature..always in great shape.....I see him swarming all over Johnson in this one!!!

 

I havent made a pick ,but I wonder how effective Johnson's uppercuts might be on a crouching Rocky?

 

Hart's face was battered to a pulp. The referee awarded him the fight because he forced the action. The crowd was wild for Hart. No doubt, if one understands Johnson's style, his defensive cleverness (which newspaper accounts note) didn't impress the referee, even though Hart came out of the fight the much worse for wear. I haven't seen the fight and don't know if film exists, so I am speculating, but it's hard to imagine that Johnson was treated fairly in the scoring for this fight. Hart beats Johnson with effective aggression yet Burns, Hart's conquerer can hardly deal with Johnson at all? Kudos to Hart for lasting the distance. There is a period where he seems to have been a tough nut to crack. Of course Hart wasn't greater than Marciano. The question is whether Marciano was greater than Johnson, and I can't make the case that he was. I don't think you have made the case, either.

 

I feel pretty much the same but I will add head to head I do not think he could handle Rocky's pressure or power and the pace and I think Rocky stops him Late

 

Unfortunately, this is heart of most arguments for Johnson's greatness...

I prefer the following facts...

Limited and otherwise average Hart did enough to beat him.

Little Choynkski knocked him cold.

Little, pitty-patter O'Brien fought him to a draw (whilst Ketchell and Langford KTFO of O'Brien)

Jim Johnson fought him to a draw and depending on your source might have deserved a knock out.

Tiny, booze-soaked Ketchell caught the defensive master with a haymaker and downed him.

Claims of his greatness often refer to his beating Jeanette. How many fighters in the last 100 years get credit for beating an absolute novice over and over, essentially as record padding?

and more, and more...

There are enough red flags to warrant heavy skepticism regarding the lofty heights to which Johnson enthusiasts have vaulted him.

 

Didn't Tommy Burns weigh 168 pounds that same year in his title defense against Jem Roche?