Rocky Marciano training regiment

Hey smartass, what the hells wrong with you?

no one was saying Marciano was clueless. Obviously everyone can see that with his unbeaten record that it worked for him but still can’t anyone question why he felt the need to run the long distance he did everyday and whether he really needed to run the hard long distances he did without getting smartass answers intent on trying to ridicule others?

 

Where did you find this? aha

 

Rocky Marciano was a clean living well condition mature champion.

 

You either leave this forum a good person, or you post long enough to become the villain.

 

The Floyd Mayweather and Marvin Hagler work ethic. He would banish himself from his family for 1-2 months leading up to a fight. If only Tyson had this focus and work ethic

 

I really think the distance Rocky ran daily is actually just a guess. Nobody knows. Even Rocky.

It was called “roadwork”.

He went out for an hour or so throwing a ball. Trotting. Walking. Some running. Running backwards. Sure He clocked up miles doing this, and it was work, but I don’t think it should necessarily count as a full run or a set distance. It was a period of exercise.

A child can play soccer all day long. It doesn’t mean the child has completed a real marathon.

It is a beneficial exercise but it is not running. it probably cant be compared to a running over a set shorter distance even if it took longer to do.

I remember Angelo Dundee saying “all my fighters do roadwork. 3 miles. I don’t care if they run it or walk it. I don’t want no marathon runners”. Angelo learned from Goldman.

Rocky had long camps. He did roadwork. However many miles he covered is pure guesswork and not strictly a run.

 

Most of the superhuman training regimens attributed to Rocky came from interviews with either his manager or his brother, both of whom had a vested interest in putting out the best press they could; objective reporters told about a fighter very devoted to his workouts, but nothing extraordinary aside from his diligence - and maybe that made all the difference. Where Fighter XYZ may have taken a day or three off in his training camp, Rocky wouldn't ... he did pay a price, though; his retirement was prompted by back issues that may have been exacerbated by his relentless nature. We know now you need time to recover, but back then, who knew? You worked until you couldn't anymore -

 

For a non-native speaker, you do a fine job of expressing yourself, Yoda.

At English good are you, as your namesake might have said.

 

This simply isn't true. In an article before the Charles 1 fight, he discusses his 5 miles route, uphill, then down, the parts that he takes it easy, the parts he goes hard. He seemed to know what he was talking about.

 

How hard it is? If you need maximum endurance for what may well be a 15 round fight, & to have top energy...
In highly competive sports where a small difference can mean a lot...
Of course anyone can overtrain without too much effort!

The initial post implies Marciano was running well over 100 miles a week with no abatement before a fight.
Even the best runners in the world taper down significantly before any meaningful race.
A competitive power lifter or weightlifter will decrease volume, not do endless sets close to or at MME (momentary muscular exhaustion).

Even the most fit people in the universe could add intensity & overdo things.
Whether Olympic athletes or pitchers, they all do less in the time before the matches.

Because while intense exercise is usually necessary to maximize abilities...
If you overdo things you will absolutely have less available energy, sore or less springy muscles, etc.

 

Yeah I believe Tex ate 50 tacos in one sitting but I think they were those smaller street taco kind.

 

Its alot harder then most would think.
I'll give you some examoles :
Of course you can over train - too much of anything is never a good thing.
To get good at something you have to do it or practice it alot- the intensity is what matters.
People that say work on a farm doing Manuel labor-lets say hauling hey do it ALL day for 5/6 days a weak. For HOURS.
Eventually their bodies will adapt to what they are doing. But make no mistake they do it for hours 5/6 days a week.
Now by your standards their bodies should break down right?

Now of course the week of your fight you would taper down as you've already layed the ground work.

100 miles a week CAN be alot depending on how you do it.
You go balls to the wall every run your not going to over train your going to end up injuring yourself long before that happens.
Now if you just jog at a comfortable pace every other day you will be fine.
Again its the intensity of the exercise that counts.
You could lift weights everyday but if your only going say 35% you are not going to over train.
And remember your body WILL shut down as a defense mechanism to protect itself.
You can over train BUT it is extremely rare to do so.

 

That is a good example about manual labor Cobra! Why #33 though?
I spoke to many garbage men-being a freegan/foraging for food-& when questioned they are sore for at least some days or a couple weeks or so when they start their job. Eventually, before too long-they adjust. And are not sore at all.
Still, if they were going to some physical competition they would be advised to taper down somewhat at least for a bunch of days before it.

Now if the intensity was greater-even if much shorter shifts-they easily may be sore all the time.
That kind of training is not so hard to do-& even though the chances of injury are much greater then, it in no way predicts when 7 if you might get injured!

I have lifted weights for decades. Even if I am stronger than many NYC "sanitation engineers", most all of them will be better than me at doing 100's of stops nightly. Because they are adapted for said task.

But tons of guys lift & spend mucho time sore-& get sub-optimal results when they say keep working the same muscles when sore.
Or they over stress their nervous system & effect sleep, appetite, recovery, temperament...

So their are degrees of overtraining-sometimes folks just will not have the little something extra, in strength & more commonly endurance, if they do not back off.
Other times they may go further, & their muscles &/or nervous system are over-taxed-& their are psychological symptoms too.

Hell just recreational bodybuilders make this basic mistake often. And others, such as while so many eat too much & get heavy, they may not have enough calories & protein when their system demands it, & be unable to synthesize muscle very effectively.
Or break it down, losing strength: being "catabolic".

This is not so rare man. Not at all.
Then when they simply reduce intensity, eat enough, sleep more...perhaps most commonly increase recovery time (which is lessened by so many PEDs, so a natural person-or newly so-needs to adjust...

They make gains, or at least stop sliding-by doing less.

 

Thank you, Eddie. Glad to hear that, I am.

 

I am sure he also did a proper 5 mile run for part or some of his training, I just think when they clock up all the miles Rocky did in one camp they include the couple of hours a day he went out with a ball and decide he covered two hours worth of running. There’s lots of film of Rocky passing a ball. In books it is mentioned that passing a ball broke up the monotony of “roadwork”. This made up most of it.

When it comes to miles covered a lot of guessing is going on. A lot of coaches settle for time spent on roadwork rather than actual miles. Half hour. An hour. Depending on the schedule, two hours. As Angelo says they’re not looking for Marathon runners.

film of old timers doing roadwork with sparring partners often looks like a jolly. They’re wearing street clothes. Slacks. Hats. A lot of walking is going on if you ask me.