Rocky Marciano v George Foreman

Tell us what would happen if Marciano survives into the 8th round against 1973 Foreman.

he grant, rusty nails, and foreman rules: the question is posed to all of you.

 

yes. simply beacuse tyson beat some really good boxers before, like biggs. we know how he'd handle a big guy who tries and boxes.
however very few believe tyson could of beat foreman. if he did then it would have been awesome.

i think its a 50/50 fight. tyson had speed, but his main assets in this fight are gonna be his power and his defense. foreman had reasonable speed, a good jab but in this fight he needs his power and mental strength.

 

None. I am sorry.

 

Marciano in five or less. He was too much better than Foreman, who was an easier target to hit, and folded under pressure on more than one occasion.

 

I dont think you can ever say that one ATG has no chance against another.

Not if he has two hands at any rate.

 

:hi: Look, I love Rocky. But styles do make fights and I was only giving my honest opinion. You are most welcome to yours.

 

Look mate I am picking Foreman here but I think people are treating it as too much of an article of faith.

The logic seems to be "Foreman beats Frazier therfore he beats Marciano". No need to even hold the fight.

It is not quite that simple.

 

I wasn't really thinking that because Foreman destroyed Frazier, he would automatically do the same to Marciano. I was only thinking that George would have been a bad match-up for any swarmer. I think Cus D'Amato had the same view. Incidently, I feel that Tyson would have the best chance from amongst the short guys against Foreman. But I would still favour a prime Foreman to win.

Okay, now that you say so, I will modify my opinion from 'none' to 'not much'.

Best regards.

 

Carmelo Modica, you say that the way to beat Foreman was to have fought him at short distance. I guess any swarming, short guy would have that idea. You make it sound like it would be the swarmer's choice only on how the fight would be fought and Foreman would have no say in this. Can't you see that Frazier did not get close because he could not. Marciano would also have the same problem, though he might not have exactly approached the fight the way Joe did.

And precisely, that was the problem. Trying to get in close to Big George and coming in the range of his all time power shots. And what if you did manage to get close? He simply pushed you away or threw you off like he did to poor Joe and Boone Kirkman and also to others.

Also in one post you agree with me that styles make fights while in the next one you state that styles do not make fights but strategies do. I am not saying that strategies do not count. But you must limit your strategies to the arsenal that you have.

 

You're predictions are reckless. The prospect of Marciano being obliterated inside of 4 rounds is highly unlikely -against any man. Marciano was never stopped. No other heavyweight champion since 1919 has had comparable stamina -none. I can think of few men who had a greater pain threshold or who had a greater ability to recover from hard shots to a nerve center. Predicting that Marciano would suffer an early KO is a burden that is difficult to satisfy -particularly with the kind of non-reasoning that many on this thread offer.

By the same token, the idea of Foreman getting "brutally" knocked out is just as unlikely. He never was. He also showed incredible recuperative powers like Marciano, and was at least as durable.

Stamina, however, is the problem for 1973 Foreman... and that is Marciano's "in". If you known anything about Goldman, you could count on him know that Foreman's stamina was no better than a cheetah's, and he would have Marciano take him into deep water...and that is where Marciano was always, always dominant.

 

Probably not.... terrible stylistic match-up for the Rock.

Foreman KO/TKO 4 Marciano

:thumbsup

 

"Hurt" I can live with. "Brutally KOd" is outlandish.

Louis was faded, but still dangerous. And after that fight he admitted that he never might have been able to beat Rocky due to that style. In any event, Rocky's not facing a world class large HW does not mean for a moment that he could not have beaten one. That's more assumption than argument.

There is a chance that Foreman would catch Rocky coming up from a crouch with concussive cracks, but I'd bet a fair amount that he'd survive. Foreman wasn't exactly full of surprises and Rocky was nothing if he wasn't tough as hell.


Rock was an animal for his size but he is not Foreman strong, he is a swarmer and swarmers are a very bad stylistic match up for Foreman especially 180lb swarmers who fight in the trenches. Rock got put down by much smaller/lighter hitters than George. No way he survives long he was durable not Mccall durable...[/quote]

 

Absolutely, Marciano KO's Foreman inside 7 rounds. The Rock was a harder hitter, more durable, versatile and less predictable than Joe Frazier. He would have gotten underneath Foreman's wide swings and attacked the body eventually finding Foreman's head and knocking him out during the middle rounds. Foreman was good no question but i think Marciano KO's him after a tussle.

 

One of the biggest bunch of **** that i ever did read. Congratulations

 

Lol