Rocky Marciano v.s Andre Ward At 185. Who Wins?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Todd498, Jun 21, 2017.


Who Wins This One?

  1. Marciano

    85 vote(s)
    82.5%
  2. Ward

    18 vote(s)
    17.5%
  1. Todd498

    Todd498 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Yep! Like one of his victims Archie Moore said... "He was a hard hitter. Slam Bam. Didn't give a damn."

    Imagine Marciano on the same 'supplement regimen' as Joshua or Briggs is on. Lol It would be beyond dangerous for his opponents.
     
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  2. Nopporn

    Nopporn Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Inrtresting matchup. Ward is a slick fighter so nobody can beat him easily even Marciano. Ward will comeup with a good gameplan in this fight. Staying out of the rope and corners trying to fight outside and holding/hugging his opponent as much as he can to avoid getting hit while they are wrestling each other. Marciano, on the other hand, will fight the same way as he always does. Steping forward, moving his head, throwing his punches, and applying relentlesss pressure. Finally, Ward will get caught with a powerful right hand in the late round. After Ward stands up from that KD Marciano will finish him off quickly with his vicious style. The fight will end up the same way as Marciano/Moore. Marciano will wear him down in the late rounds. Ward can't compete with Marciano's power.
     
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  3. Oneirokritis

    Oneirokritis The Scourge of Stupid Idiots. Full Member

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    Some quotes from Joe Louis after he fought Rocky Marciano, which are worth considering for anyone who thinks Ward would beat him in a hypothetical dream match:

    "He doesn't fight by the book, but he hit me with a whole library of bone-crushers."

    "I can still feel the body punches he hit me with."

    "I had a bad weakness. I hated to be crowded. That was Marciano's thing."

    :sisi1
     
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  4. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Wardo?
     
  5. Oneirokritis

    Oneirokritis The Scourge of Stupid Idiots. Full Member

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    I disagree. Anthony Joshua -- who both Andre Ward and Virgil Hunter called out after Kovalev II -- would make easy work of Ward and would violently starch Ward.
     
  6. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Marciano against anyone today that isn't a cruiser or heavy is just painful to even think about. These guys just aren't physically strong enough to take Maricano's punishment. Hell, most cruisers and heavies aren't either.
     
  7. vituman

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    Ward with nuts cracking low blow or "hometowndecision"
     
  8. BUDW

    BUDW Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Charles could not beat Rocky, ward sure won't Rocky by KO.
     
  9. BUDW

    BUDW Boxing Addict Full Member

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    IF
     
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  10. BCS8

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    Philip of Macedon: "If I take my army into Sparta I will destroy everything and make you all my slaves forever."
    Spartans: "If."

    Love it.
     
  11. Radrook

    Radrook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Weird how he allowed himself to get cornered that way.
     
  12. Todd498

    Todd498 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    He didn't "allow" anything. Rocky wore him the **** out and set him up for the atomic Suzie Q.
     
  13. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Rocky was also blind for three rounds that fight.
    Watching it again recently, the outcome looked inevitable.

    Walcott spilled everything he had in the first few rounds to give himself a chance to win.
    From there it was a gradual breaking down his defense until Rocky could reach him with that iconic punch from hell.
     
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  14. Radrook

    Radrook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No, I am not denying that Rocky had worn him out to the extent of having him start backing up instead of making it a brawl as he had attempted to do during the first few rounds. But even though he was worn out, he was still effectively moving and not posing as he did suddenly in that corner. If you look carefully, Marciano slightly feinted twice prior to throwing that punch and Walcott reacted to the feint twice with slight body movement as if planning to counter.

    BTW
    I have heard some say that Walcott was attempting to bait Marciano into a trap which he had used successfully during previous fights but didn't work as planned. In any case, being ahead on the scorecards would make such sudden attempt to bait Marciano totally unnecessary. So I consider this something similar to what happened to Billy Conn vs Joe Louis and to Meldric Taylor vs Chavez, a totally unnecessary strategy which cost them the fight.
     
  15. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Saw Don Cockell many years ago at a function. Someone asked him about Rocky. Don said " Rocky had very short legs & when he ducked the only target you got was top of his head , I didn't realise that before the fight, You could hit that with a 2 x 4 & not stop him''
    Guy asked " If you'd known could you have beaten him" ? Don grinned & said " No he was too bloody good for me"