Rocky Marciano vDeontay Wilder?

I also agree with this. Whilst I would personally picture a 200 pound Rocky it's your thread so ill play by your rules.

I do still pick Rocky anyways.

 

So do I as it happens.

Wilder is not yet a great fighter.

 

I think we have to get used to a new kind of great. To be be great at superheavyweight a fighter only has to be hard to beat.

 

maybe true, BUT I don't take into account what "might" have been when matching fighters of different era's. I take into account only what was. Adding muscle mass to a fighter from a older era creates a different fighter from what was really what.

Hard enough to compare fighters from different era's without speculating how one fighter may have become better if born, raised and trained in a later era.

 

Exactly!

In 2000 Sports Illustrated named their Top-100 female athletes of the 20th Century. Norwegian figure skater Sonja Henie was #4 on this list (behind Jackie Joyner-Kersee, Babe Didrikson Zaharias and Billie Jean King). Back in the 20s and 30s Henie won 3 consecutive Olympic golds and 10 consecutive world championships - feats that have never been equalled since.

Today we have clear film of Henie in her heyday, and while she was superior to all competition in HER OWN TIME - she looks almost embarrassingly inept compared to modern skaters.

So, I'm wondering... are there sites out there, where figure skating fans discuss the "old vs new" issue, like we do here? Where people argue, that if she had been born 80 years later, she would have been taller, leaner, better trained, etc. - and therefore able to beat the best even today? Or are those fans intelligent enough to simply honour her as the greatest figure scater of all time - without ridiculous guesses about what a "modern" Henie would look like, and how she would perform?

 

Marciano inside 4

 

I would have no problem if Rocky took Wilder out, i like both fighters and have the attitude of let the best dude win.

However, i see Wilder coming with a game plan to stay outside as much as he can and i think he would be able to do that to Rocky for at least 4 rounds or so.

Put it this way, i don't think Wilder is all that, i think he simply poses a style match up vs Rocky that "could-be" difficult for Rocky to figure out. At his height and size he is good enough to create ongoing problems for Rocky coming in. Maybe Rocky would solve them, i just think that at the very least he may get hammered a good few times before he did.

I see the exact same problem for Rocky if he were to face Fury, so it really isn't related to how great i rate Wilder or Fury overall. To me the jury is still out on both of them. I just see them both giving a shorter heavyweight like Rocky a hard time.

 

i'll take wilder to look good for a few rounds then hurt rocky with a right hand and get ko'd whilst swinging away in range.

 

Is there any film to confirm this?