Rocky Marciano vDeontay Wilder?

wilman gets knocked in hourglass half

 

Marciano by murder...

 

Thanks for the info.

So Shkor, big Bill Willson, Jackson, Connolly, Joe Louis (when he fought him) and Savold (when he fought him) were all modern sized heavyweights? That's not as bad as I thought considering that period is not known for producing big heavyweights.

Vingo, Connolly and Shkor each between 6'4-6'5" so the height and reach in itself was no problem.

Each of these fights represented a fair match at each particular point in Marcianos development.

Compare this with the rediculous guys George Foreman fought as #1 contender to Joe Frazier in 1972!! Joe Murphy gordwin with his eye watering 1-14-1 record. Clarence "boom-boom" Boone and his 3-24-1 stats. 15-5 199lb Ted Gullick who was decent but outweighed by 21 pounds. 4-15 Terry "very sorry" Sorrell, Miguel Paez who won 48 of 76 fights in south America. This was ludicrous.

We can scoff at Big Bill Willson now but he could obviously handle himself and hold his own at a decent level. Yes he was found out a few times but made a lot of rematches and must have been in high demand as a stiff opponent. Willson fought 17 times in 1952 alone! Bill won a lot more than he lost scoring 47 knockouts within 57wins from 80 odd fights. Even if all Bills KO wins were against the guys Cleveland Williams was brought up on its not bad going. It wasn't for Williams. Has Wilder fought many men like that yet? A winning blue collar pro from the c list circuit.

 

Shkor was a world rated HW if I recall. He definitely fits the mold of a SHW fighter.

So Rocky has proven he can beat a big man, the question is just how good does the big man have to be until he beats Rocky?

A fringe top ten guy wasn't good enough which rules out the likes of Thompson, Dmitrenko, Ustinov etc. But it's a huge leap going from Dmitrenko to Lewis. Obviously somewhere in that leap is a Wilder.

 

Hmm, that's the 64 dollar question.

The point is size in itself is not the hurdle. He has some form here.

 

Wilder's 35 opponents just as good as Marciano's.

 

You can cherry pick certain opponents as much as you want the fact is nobody fought worse opponents than George Foreman did for a full year as #1 contender. it was rediculous.

Marciano fought and beat a lot of the top ten by the time he became champion. His credentials as both a rated fighter and champion is beyond reproach.

Deontay Widers last fight before winning a belt was against a guy who lost 16 times Jason Gavern. He'd been knocked down and knocked out multiple times.

 

As far as things have been seen, Wilder hasn't showed he can hang with the elite guys while Marciano showed us all that he's an ATG

 

Only mcvey can claim Wilder would beat Marciano.

There's no doubting that Wilder's 83 inch reach would pose serious problems for Marciano. But, that's as far as it goes. His power would not trouble Marciano who we all know had an iron chin.

 

Bonavena was disqualified for a low blow. That's not a win.
Corletti was all used up, he never won another fight. Lovel? Who did he ever beat? He was losing more than he was winning too. Wasn't he spider rico?

Paez was a handpicked former lightheavyweight who was unranked and thoroughly mismatched versus Foreman.