Rocky Marciano vDeontay Wilder?

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  1. Perry

    Perry Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Also being heavier hwt does NOT mean you punch harder. Not in any way shape or form.
     
  2. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    on average it does, not as a rule per individual, however, on average it sure does,

    it does, not as a golden RULE but on average yes,

    when more mass gets moving the impact is going to be greater than when less mass gets moving,,,,
     
  3. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Who punches harder, Jimmy Wilde or Zuri Lawrence?
     
  4. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    You talk as though you were the only one in the queue when God was handing out the brains
    .You're a self appointed expert nothing more.

    Why do you think it is that when fighters go up a weight class
    they often do not carry their power with them?
    Duran & McCallum are just two examples.
    [See the McCallum thread.]

    How many fights have you had?
     
  5. richdanahuff

    richdanahuff Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Being bigger as in 6'7" lean and muscular like a giant panther makes a difference.
     
  6. Perry

    Perry Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    People on this forum have sooooo much to learn.

    Hard punching has to do with speed, technique...the ability to put ones body weight behind a punch. If you are huge but do not have the technique or speed you will not have the power of a smaller man who does. This is why Dempsey as an example hits so incredibly hard and why Carnera was in comparison a powder puff puncher. We are talking HEAVYWEIGHTS. Of course if Carnera had the speed and technique of Dempsey he would hit that much harder. The point is weight, as a hwt, does not mean you hit harder.

    As you drop in weight class 5 pounds can mean a lot. Once you reach the hwt class and know HOW to punch you can ko any fighter at any weight.
     
  7. The Mongoose

    The Mongoose I honor my bets banned

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    I'm looking for the dum dum boys
     
  8. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    you are using exceptions to the rule and using those exceptions to ignore the majority of non exceptions.
     
  9. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Yeah Carnera wasn't a great puncher. But his KO on Sharkey was one of the most brutal I've ever seen.

    https://youtu.be/b1QA7Q1hOA0?t=21m13s


    Being bigger gives you an inherent advantage, against most fighters. But against a great fighter, it's going to be used against you.
     
  10. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Again, a fighter who developed punch anticipation at a lower weight class, against faster men, can give the appearance of better punch resistance against bigger/slower men. In reality they are simply riding punches much better. More time to to react.
     
  11. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    In reality this is a tenuous explanation that is wholly unconvincing.How do you explain fighters power dropping of when they go up a weight?
    Basically do you think a puncher at middleweight will have the same effect with his power on lhvies?
    If the answer is no and it often is ,you have to ask why?
     
  12. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Your talking about something different. I just offered an explanation for supposed increased punch resistance when fighters up in weight. Here's another, weight weakened fighters don't take so good a punch, they move up a division they're not weight weakened anymore.
     
  13. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    How do you explain Manny pacquiao?
     
  14. BCS8

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    I'll take Marciano. Wilder's chin is suspect and while he isn't as awful as the comic threads make him out to be, sooner or later Rocky is going to land something big. I don't see Wilder lasting the distance unless he has drastically improved.
     
  15. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    whats with all these "size is everything evolution of boxing" chaps picking white rocky over 7 foot tall black wilder?