Rocky Marciano Versus Oleksandr Usyk

No, you absolutely do not do that.

You have completely written off Frazier in the other thread.

 

You entire post is a case of The Dunning-Kruger effect in action lol
I give a coherent argument for why certain fighters are better then others and are more proven against actual heavyweights and why size is important consideration
BUT BUT MUH STLYES MAN MUH STYLES ITS ALL ABOUT THE STYLES REEEEEE. Please take a basic logics course you clearly need it

 

No I gave a reasonable explanation why he wouldn't be able to impose his style on Usyk which you countered with MUH STYLES MAN. Please come up with better arguments at this point it just boring arguing with you because all you ever say is MUH STYLES

 

Who cares who had the better chin…Marciano punched to the body too.

 

Usyk is a very accomplished professional because of his vast amateur accomplishments but lets not underestimate Marciano, who had great stamina and unorthodox fighting style and a guy who made himself shorter and could hit hard with both hands. Also, Marciano went to the body well and blasted the arms neck and anything else he could hit. I think a lot would depend on if it's a 12 or 15 round fight. I would bet heavily on Marciano in a 15 round fight and believe he could get a late stoppage. Still either way this would be an interesting battle, and Marciano would bring real pressure.

 

Let’s not forget glove size as well. Didn’t they wear smaller gloves in Marciano’ days? I think that favors Marciano.

 

YOU, and the words: ‘logical’ and ‘coherent’ should NEVER be used in a sentence together.

Not ever.


Nobody has ever said that size isn’t important.

But you’re too ignorant to realise that it goes BOTH ways.

That in SOME fights, being the SMALLER fighter is more advantageous.


Now you are terribly ignorant.

You are obsessed by size.

You call people nostalgics, but then show just as much ignorance with your recency bias.


You have no knowledge or concept of the stylistic match ups.

You have literally just said that Usyk would have dominated any era.

Absolutely LAUGHABLE.


The man barely beat Breidis at CW in his prime, yet he’d have dominated any era??

STUPID.


You have even convinced yourself that he’d EASILY have beaten a prime Mike Tyson.

You’re convinced of it, without not realising that as great as he is, he simply does NOT possess the attributes NEEDED to have been in any way favoured.


You are an ignoramus.

 

"Weight classes aren't real man its all about STYLES" that's basically your entire argument in a nutshell. Let me know when you learn basic physics and biology and then maybe we can have a conversation

 

Every fight in history is, and has been, determined by STYLES.

Every single one.


The bigger guy doesn’t always win.

The faster guy doesn’t always win.

Boxing is so intriguing and unique, that even the better, more skilled fighter doesn’t always win.


The first and most important thing to look at, is ALWAYS how are they going to match up on the night stylistically.

That should be your first thought, before you take onboard any other factors.

The stylistic clash outweighs any other factor.


It is simply inconceivable for you to believe that the smaller man has the advantage.

Your comments on the Frazier thread were pathetic.


They basically consisted of:

“Well, how could a small Frazier have troubled him, when 2 SHW’s didn’t?”

That’s you!

That is your level of understanding.


I literally surpassed that level of knowledge when I was about 9/10 years old.


You post on a boxing thread, but you never learn anything.

It’s just the same ignorant outlook on every thread.

You’re just wasting your own time here.

 

Lmk when weight classes stop being a thing then maybe you might have an argument right now you just sound like an armchair analysis who has never been in a fight in your life.

 

HW’s are HW’s.

A smaller HW, vs a much larger HW, is not the same as a WW fighting a LHW.

We discussed this last week.
Nobody is disputing the weight classes.


Now with your own eyes, you have seen Andy Ruiz steamroller AJ.

You have seen Usyk beat Fury pretty easily, yet saw Usyk struggle mightily with Breidis.


Basic physics to you:

“Usyk has beaten guys much bigger than himself. Therefore, nobody smaller could beat him”

That is your level of understanding.


You’re an embarrassment.

 

Why do I have to let you know that, when we’re talking about guys in the same division, Einstein.

Maybe I might have can argument?


This is you:

“Usyk would DOMINATE ANY HW era”


Straight jacket time.

 

Usyk said Fury was his toughest opponent gee I wonder why.........

 

Name me an era he wouldn't be a top fighter in

 

Breidis was his toughest opponent.