Rocky Marciano vs Cleveland Williams

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by KeedCubano, Feb 11, 2021.

  1. KeedCubano

    KeedCubano Read my posts in a Jamaican accent Full Member

    Jul 21, 2019
    Obviously rocky isn't even close to good enough to beat Liston but neither was Williams. Can marciano beat the bigger quicker fighter?
  2. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

    Dec 31, 2009
    nothing obvious about the first statement other than Williams wasn’t good enough to beat Liston. Which was proven.
    (And I’m answering this in a Jamaican accent.)
  3. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Dec 20, 2006
    Well the bylaws do state that we need to do this thread every 42 days or so

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  4. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft 'Snarky Little Gobshite' - IntentionalButt Full Member

    Mar 3, 2019
    There's no argument for Marciano beating Liston. The reasons why are obvious.
  5. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

    Aug 15, 2018
    There certainly is an argument. I would slightly favor Liston but there’s certainly a case for Marciano. If they fought ten times I wouldn’t be surprised if Marciano won four of them. But this threads been done to death. All there to read.
  6. klompton2

    klompton2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Feb 10, 2013
    Is Cubano an alt for Swag so he has an excuse to talk about his man crush since weve had a couple of days without mention of him?
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  7. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Jun 25, 2014
    Certainly, inside five.
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  8. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Addict Full Member

    Nov 22, 2014
    This. Liston was strong, but had several flaws that Marciano would’ve exploited and this was even more true for Williams.

    Liston had a bad habit of overthrowing his jab and that bad habit would work against him in a fight with Marciano, so Liston definitely wouldn’t have an easy time with Marciano. Williams on the otherhand relied too much on his power and stood square too much.
  9. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Jul 30, 2014
    1. It's *we've. Learn how to spell before you address me.

    2. I don't have any alts, nor do I need any. I only have one account. That's all I need.
  10. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Jan 3, 2007
    I would favor Rocky Marciano to win by knockout at some point. Williams would be a tough challenge though. He competed against a lot of good men and had a fair amount of power and size for the era he fought in.
  11. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Jul 30, 2014
    Agreed. How could Williams even dream of lasting as long as the 18-29-2 Art Henri?
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  12. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Jun 25, 2014
    I'm sure Marciano would have no problem. Williams got knocked out by Satterfield in three, Liston in two and three, Ali in three. Cleveland's claim to fame aren't his wins, it's that people "who destroyed him" said he hit hard.

    Big difference.

    I'm sure Rocky would say Cleveland hit hard, too, as they are reviving Cleveland in the corner.
  13. KasimirKid

    KasimirKid Active Member Full Member

    Jun 1, 2018
    Another example of obvious trolling. Maybe so obvious that I'm being sucked into the trap by even commenting on it!
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  14. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Jul 30, 2014
    Williams was a 20 year old kid, who'd been boxing for only a year, and had taken the fight on a 2 day notice.
    Only person who stopped a prime Williams. Marciano is nowhere near that level.
    Williams was on the comeback trail from a near-fatal gunshot wound that resulted in permanent damage, and he was quite clearly a shell of himself.

    Quite interesting, you say that. As you were the one to document, testimonies of Wlliams' power while defending him.
    You also bought up a sparring account of Williams knocking out Baker. With the exception of Liston none of the above men "destroyed" Williams

    Fixed it for you.
  15. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

    Feb 11, 2005
    I have nothing to add to this but... Bravo!