Rocky Marciano vs Ed Dunkhorst

Janitor has a good point. Dunkhurst was not just fat. He was about 6' 4", I think.

Therefore he was indeed big and fat.



I think a serious point here would be that the fighters under 200 lbs were on the whole much better than the fighters over 200 lbs prior to the 1960's, and so the ATG's generally had their toughest fights against these smaller men. Beating Willard or Carnera was probably not as praiseworthy as beating Schmeling or Charles.

 

I think you hit the nail on the head.. I speculate that in earlier periods of the game, bigger men were less apt to developing their speed and skill set, due to the fact that they felt like they didn't have to. Being over 6'3", and wieghing over 200 lbs was a rare advantage.. Therefore, the smaller, quicker technicians ultimately became better fighters.. As time went on however, being big became only one part of the equation. Larger men were more and more common, and only the more agile, durable and skilled ones prevailed.

 

Over the years co ordination among men ,once considered giants has improved out of all recognition,your points are well taken.

 

Marciano knocks Dunkhorst 30 feet into the air:happy; Ed comes down and crushes The Rock.:shock:

I just don't see how Rocky is going to pull this one out.:|

 

Marciano would have stood no chance against Charley Powell.

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6'4, 225 pounds. Marciano said Powell could be the man to beat him and ducked him.

 

That seems a bit strange to me, given the time frames consisting of when Marciano retired and Powell's standing at that point.. When Rocky fought his last match against Archie Moore in September of 1955, Charlie Powell's record was 12-2-1, and had just been recently stopped by Charlie Norkus and Johnny Summerlin.. He also had virtually no wins of note... Frankly, I'm wondering how in the hell Rocky even knew who he was, outside of having a football career.

 

Marciano did say that Powell would go onto become the next champion after viewing one of his early fights but of course Rocky didn't duck him, Powell was a big guy and an athlete but he wasn't a successful pro. :good

 

How do you draw comparable match ups between Carnera and Bruno for Rocky ? I keep saying it's not just size but style, skills and size and too many here just pass the buck by focusing on size.

Primo had zero power . How was he going to keep Rocky off him ? Bruno had crushing power and the ability o deliver it behind a very good jab and a huge reach ...

 

I guessed you were kidding. Shows that people then and now are perhaps overly impressed with size.

Powell never got even into a contender status until a 1959 comeback, but even then he was never a serious top man.

He was the most physically impressive heavy of his era, though, and a top athlete in another sport.

 

That would be much appreciated.

 

Jokes aside, i agree. Guys like Jeffries, Johnson and Louis were an exception and even them stood only a bit over 200lbs in their primes. I guess nutrition and longer fights are the main factors leading to the increase in size.