Rocky Marciano vs Evander Holyfield @ cruiserweight: Would this fight get boxing banned???

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  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    The guy who told Holyfield cut men were a con trick.
     
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  2. Birmingham

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    seriously ???? Shouldn't be in a corner with a mind like that
     
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  3. superman1986

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    I don't know. Marciano had an uncanny ability to take punishment and keep coming forward throwing bombs until the last second of the last bell.

    I always thought that Marciano would be tough for any opponent that couldn't get rid of him early. After watching the Chuvalo fight, that convinced me he'd have been a tough opponent for Ali as like Chuvalo, he could take Ali's shots and keep coming, except he'd be constantly throwing bonecrushing punches.

    Marciano took quite a beating from Walcott who probably exceeded any version of Holyfield, maybe except the mid 90s version, in punching power.

    I can't see the 187-190 lb Holyfield stopping Marciano in 4 rounds. I know it would be a fight to the finish, but a 184 lb Rocky vs a 190 pound Holy, I probably would lean towards Rocky. I'd pick Marciano over some 200+ pounders, but, those 200 pounders in question that I'd favor Rocky against, I also may favor cruiser Holyfield against too.
     
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  4. reznick

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    He's a boxing trainer, not an oracle.
     
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  5. reznick

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    And yet Lomachenko, the Klitschkos, and Kovalev had him on their team.

    Naive to think we know better than them.
     
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  6. mcvey

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    Had ,as in past tense.lol
     
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  7. reznick

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    I see you got your Turner pitchfork out. :)
     
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  8. Sting like a bean

    Sting like a bean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    "And yet Evanders own trainer who saw Rocky said that Marciano was better."


    Have you got a source for that? It's not that I disbelieve you, I'd just like to see it firsthand.
     
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    Of course. :)

    This content is protected
     
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  10. Birmingham

    Birmingham Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Your missing my point! He can not be counted on to give an honest opinion..Nothing to do with how good a trainer he is/was ! Hes a sly old dog
     
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  11. Ronnie Raygun

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    Lou Duva was Evanders first trainer.
     
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  12. Birmingham

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    Marciano was a heavy puncher, but **** me, he aint punching harder than these 240lb super heavys now..Is he talking p4p ??
     
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  13. mcvey

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    No, I didn't even know he had said that about Rocky and Holly that's why I framed my response as a question.
    Its interesting that you accepted what Turner says because it suits you,yet when Emmanuel Steward, universally recognized as a greater trainer, stated that Marciano was too crude ,lacking in balance, and just plain too small to compete today you didn't! :rolleyes:
     
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  14. mcvey

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    Never rated him, and he was no trainer, George Benton did the training.Duva was a cheerleader and often more trouble than he was worth!
     
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  15. reznick

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    That's not true. Ive never not accepted what Stewart said. I just didn't exclusively use his statement to form an opinion.

    If there is a direct comparison to be made, it seems like Turner was closer to the action, having had exposure to both Marciano and the Klitschkos.
     
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