Rocky Marciano vs Evander Holyfield

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  1. Luigi1985

    Luigi1985 Cane Corso Full Member

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    Marciano was just a 185-CW who beat old, washed up LHW´s (although I never saw them in their prime to make a fair judgement), Toney was a well-trained, muscular natural HW who would beat the **** out of Marciano... :deal
     
  2. Luigi1985

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    I stop now the discussion with you, because I know right now who you´re. You´re very young and inexperienced and know not much about boxing history. And why do I overrate Marciano? I just favoured him over Holyfield a bit, oh yeah, and I really think he KO´s the small CW Qawi in a few rounds, that don´t make me automatically overrate him...
     
  3. slicksouthpaw16

    slicksouthpaw16 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So you are finally admitting that i won the debate? wow, i knew you had to man up sometime. But anyway, i wouldn't favor Toney over Marciano but i would favor prime Chris Byrd over him. He out box him badly. That slicksouthpaw style would cause problems for the slower and smaller Rocky. :good
     
  4. Luigi1985

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    Agreed, he couldn´t/ wouldn´t beat the likes of Ellis (a natural MW) or so... :thumbsup
     
  5. JohnThomas1

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    Well Qawi was only 5'6 1/2 and 175 at his best, doesn't this make him an automatic loser vs Marciano by your standards? Hell, Rock had near 4 inches and 10 pounds on him!
     
  6. slicksouthpaw16

    slicksouthpaw16 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    lol, so you automatically know somone that you never seen before? what a joke. I know more boxing than you can forget (thats an old one lol). and yes, you saying that he would beat faster and more skillful opponents great fighters like Qawi and Holyfield easily makes me concerned about your health.
     
  7. Luigi1985

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    :rofl

    With all respect for Byrd, he could barely beat the likes of an older Golota, McCline, Williamson, etc...
     
  8. Luigi1985

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    Don´t take this post to seriously, I just wanted to provocate, but after reading your posts I really think you have absolutely no idea what you´re talking about...
     
  9. Dempsey1238

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    Well Marciano train DOWN to his weight though. He could make 220 pounds easy. Sure he was small in height, but in his day, fighters train down to there weight.

    Louis range about 190 pounds to 210, Dempsey never made it pass the 190 mark until the Tunney fights. It was pretty common in that time.
     
  10. JohnThomas1

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    More embarrassment :lol:
     
  11. JohnThomas1

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    Jeez, did it take you this long? :lol:
     
  12. slicksouthpaw16

    slicksouthpaw16 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Golata, Williamson, and MCcline are also alot bigger than he is..lol Byrd is bigger than Marciano. Hes taller and he weighs more. The only advantage that Rocky would have is punching power, but Byrd is very slick and has been hit by puncher that hits harder than Rocky.
     
  13. Luigi1985

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    Because of people like him I´m not so much in this forum I used to be in the past... :lol:
     
  14. Luigi1985

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    Agreed, they´re bigger than Marciano and automatically better. :good Great to have a boxing expert and historian here on ESB, we can learn from a specialist like you...

    :party
     
  15. slicksouthpaw16

    slicksouthpaw16 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You rarley see me in this forum. I have not even been on here in about a month. Im at the other site more. :good