Rocky Marciano vs. Floyd Patterson

Rocky Marciano

 

Well, there was said he had back problems due to his style and had go through great pain in his last fights due to this. Also he had some problems with his management and he wasn´t in his prime anymore. I think it´s a bit from everything.

 

I still think Patterson had faster hands than Ali, Dempsey or Tyson. I also would have prefered if PAtterson would have fought at lhw for a while longer, I think we got robbed of a great two weight champion because of that.

 

I agree. I think D'Amato was too afraid of Patterson getting beaten. Patterson did very fine after he lost his championship without D'Amato going against tougher opposition than before and during his reign with quite a success. Very underrated hw champion and saldy often only remembered for his losses to Liston. A lock for the Top20 if not even Top15 and one of the best p4p hws - I think only Marciano, Ali, Louis and perhaps Tyson and Dempsey are there with him.

 

I'll take the Rock over 15, though Patterson taking it is certainly not out of the question.

 

Whats often forgotting is that Patterson change his style during the 60's from the peek a boo style to the boxer that people are useing vs Marciano.

Patterson would not be jabbing and out boxing Marciano. He would charge in head first, as he did vs Ingo, and as he did vs Pete, and as he did vs Liston(2 times). Marciano would not need to find Patterson, Patterson would be there to hit. And when it does, Patterson will go out. I dont think it last into the 5th, it would be a good brawl while it last when the Rocky scoring a knockout.
If We are talking 1960's Patterson's, Than Marciano is going to have to grind him down and out.

 

Floyd was not a top 10 fighter having lost to Maxim (controversial) but he would not have been ready in the near future, Cus said he was not going to challange Marciano it was the wrong fight for Floyd, Rocky would hit you on the side of the head and it would be hard for Floyd to survive Marciano, I think there would have been a few good rds but I really dont see Floyd making it past 6 rds and Liston was 10-1 and a novice at that point of Rocky's career, they wanted to finish up with Nino Valdez to make it 50-0 with 44 KO'sbut Valdez lost badly vs Bob Satterfield in 1955 dropped for a 9 count in the 10th rd losing the nod and it would have been hard to make him marketable, so without a big payday on the horizon, Marciano retired, tired of Weil taking most of his money

 

u actually believe patterson survives the distance after seeing what ingemar johannson and liston did to him? or are u taking into the account a 1956 marciano is past his prime?

prime for prime, patterson does not stand a chance stylistically vs a 1951 slugger version of rocky marciano

 

I agree with the second part but want to add a few things on the dirst part, I think Liston and Johannspn had more one punch power than the Rock and a complete different stylistic match-up. I don´t think you can take Patterson´s performance against these two to judge how he would do against Rocky.

 

Prime for prime, Marciano wins by late KO.

 

Because he'd have had to wait about two or three years for Floyd to get into position for a title shot.
Patterson wasn't even ranked in the top 10 when Marciano retired.

Somehow there's this perception that Rocky reitred to avoid Patterson, but the irony of the situation is that Cus D'Amato was so protective and cautious with Floyd, that I'd strongly doubt he'd let Patterson anywhere near an animal like Marciano, even if Rocky was winding down a bit. (Not that I think he was, mind you.)

The fight itself? It would be a typical Marciano fight...the opponent (Patterson) looking good for a while, as Marciano tried to find his groove.
By the mid rounds, Marciano takes over and starts his relentless barrage of hard punches. Floyd doesn't have the strength or chin to hold Marciano off forever.

Marciano KO 8 or 9.

 

I don't like Marciano because he retired very close to his prime being relatively untested just to protect his '0' so that people that have never seen him like us would think he was some super human fighter that could'nt be hurt or something along those lines, Marciano is the perfect example of what a true warrior would never do very much like Money and Calzaghe

 

do you honestly believe Marciano belongs in the same category as charles sonny liston? theres not a single thing Marciano does better than Sonny and would be knocked out in about 2 rounds if he went up against him

 

doublepost.

 

wtf? That´s a bad post. There are plenty of fights of him available go and watch them. He for sure wasn´t untested, he fought plenty of the top contenders of his day and additionally fought the Top20 hws of all-time Walcott and Charles and, also he was quite old then, Joe Louis and Archie Moore who beat more top contenders at hw than about anybody fighting at hw today with perhaps the exception of Wlad and Ruiz.
Marciano is in his weightclass and p4p clearly suprior to Mayweather and Calzaghe.

You are right Marciano does not belong into the same category as Liston. He is one above him. The only one Liston fought who was in the class of Marciano was Ali and we know how this ended.

Hell, I hope SuzieQ will return to this thread to educate you a bit.