Rocky Marciano vs Joe Frazier

Then Terry Norris must be an Expotic rare Corvette. Still glass

 

He said Sheppard and Durelle were the hardest hitters he faced
Charles said Satterfield,Marshall ,and Sheppard.
Lastarza and Cockell both said they had been hit harder but not so hard so often.

 

JERSEY JOE WALCOTT

"Joe could take you out with combinations...Marciano was a one-punch artist. He threw every punch like you throw a baseball, as hard as he could. I have to say, with all respect to Joe, Marciano hit harder."


HARRY "KID" MATHEWS

"He was a great puncher, one of the best of all-time. He just threw one punch after another, and all of them were hard."


EZZARD CHARLES:

"Rocky numbs you all over. Wherever he hits you, he hurts you; on the arms, the shoulders, the neck and the head."


JOE LOUIS

"It hurt to bump into him....He hits harder than Max Schmeling...this kid is tough enough to beat anyone."


and


"The Rock didn't know too much about the boxing book, but it wasn't a book he hit me with. It was a whole library of bone crushers."


ARCHIE MOORE

(When asked which punch hurt him most)

"Man they all hurt."


and


"After a fight with Marciano, it felt like you had been beat all over the upper body with a blackjack or hit with rocks....He could hurt you, sure, but it was the quantity of his punches. He just had more stamina than anyone else in those days. He was like a bull with gloves."


ROLAND LASTARZA

"I would throw a hard punch, then he would throw a hard punch. The difference was that Rocky would throw 10 more. He just never stopped throwing punches."


PHIL MUSCATO

"Dan, I can still feel his punches. He kept punching me in the upper arms until I could no longer hold them up to defend or throw punches".


BERNIE REYNOLDS

"He had amazing strength. Any time Marciano hit you, he could hurt you. He didn't do much flicking; every punch was a knockout punch."


And, the opinion of JACK DEMPSEY:

"What everyone forgets is that Marciano can punch harder with a right hand than any modern-day heavyweight. In his first fight with Walcott, Rocky needed only one blow to win the title. The power in his right scrambled Jersey Joe's brains at Chicago."

"I've scored my share of knockouts along the way, but more often than not my opponents got up after being knocked down and had to be knocked down repeatedly. The same is true of Joe Louis. But Marciano needs only one solid smash and it's all over.

That's why I say Rocky Marciano is the hardest-hitting heavyweight champion I have seen."

 

Floyd Patterson as well.

 

I'm aware of all this I just posted my bit for the other fella.
I don't buy this Frazier was shot to bits for Foreman guff.He went on to beat Bugner,Quarry, and Ellis, and give Ali life and death.He beats Charles.

 

That's one immense about face over the years. What thought process led Marciano from being picked to win to being destroyed?

 

When did Charles fight Sheppard? Did they spar?

 

The scholars on this board encouraged me to study both further in depth with the aim of head to head analysis.

 

IDK

 

A phone booth fight. I lean more towards The Rock. He had a two-handed offense, threw more punches, didn't fall off balance like Frazier did and had a better sense of positioning. He had superior ring smarts, in my opinion, and that would serve him well against Frazier (who was more one dimensional). Frazier's speed and that big left-hook would cause him some problems. Rocky TKO mid-late rounds.

 

Marciano had poor balance and fell over a couple of times after missing punches.

 

Are you having a laugh mate?

 

Frazier by TKO,, While Marciano is a hard puncher he won't dent Frazier to the point of stopping him and this fight will end in KO.

 

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