Rocky Marciano vs John Ruiz

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  1. Charlietf

    Charlietf Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ok. Tua then destroys Joe Louis. Prove that i am wrong
     
  2. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    I can't.

    I can only outline the extensive reasons why Louis should be favored.
     
  3. Charlietf

    Charlietf Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Show based on your logic every fantasy fight is 50/50
     
  4. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Stanley Ketchel. The challenger in 1909 would eat slow, slooth footed Tua up and stretch him for beyond 10 count within 11 rounds. Tua s overrated power wouldn't touch Stanley and STANLEY'S crushing body shots and otherworldly power would crush the heretofore sturdy chin of the Kiwi. That is a fact. Prove me wrong bitches!!!!
     
  5. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    No, you pick a favorite, which is a most likely case scenario in your eyes.

    Sometimes the fighter that you pick is a strong favorite, and sometimes they are a narrow favorite, but it is only ever a bast guess.
     
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  6. Charlietf

    Charlietf Well-Known Member Full Member

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    How is the strong favourite if they never fought in the same era or faced the same rivals?
     
  7. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Sheesh comparing Marciano to Ruiz and Tua to Louis all in the same thread...starting Saturday off with a bang boys! Hope everyone is healthy and well as this quarantine seems to be giving folks many delusions
     
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  8. SerbianLoudmouth

    SerbianLoudmouth Overhand right-Suzie Q Full Member

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    Check my comment about Marciano vs Tua in this thread!
     
  9. janitor

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    Obviously that poses difficulties, but if one man is the most dominant champion of all time, and the other wasn't making it past the top ten, then picking a favorite is fairly straightforward.
     
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  10. Charlietf

    Charlietf Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Most dominant champion of all time losing by ko in his prime? Uh... Ali was way more dominant
     
  11. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I’d wager a lot of money he doesn’t win half.
     
  12. janitor

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    Louis went unbeaten for twelve years.

    That is as dominant as it gets.
     
  13. Charlietf

    Charlietf Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Still he lost by ko in his prime and his opposition was not the best exactly
     
  14. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    If you assume that he was the only fighter in history, to reach his prime within two years of his professional debut!
    If you are defending Tua, you do not go after the other guy's opposition!
     
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  15. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Janitor, I love you man, but seriously?