Rocky Marciano vs John Ruiz

Ruiz got outpointed by Jones, and Toney before he failed the steroids test.

I suspect that a few great light heavyweights could have beaten him.

 

You honestly don't think ANY great light heavys would lose to him? More than that, you think their's a welter who would've stood a chance against him not taking into account P4P?

 

Yes on reflection, the ones who relied upon imposing themselves, would likely lose to him.

I would give the heavyweight version of Mickey Walker a very good chance against him!

 

tyson made his pro debut in 1985 and he was in his prime in 1986 until 1988 so he was not the only one

2 different topics. Nothing to do with this

 

You are losing the north mate picking much smaller guys against him

 

Tyson is pretty much the only other example in history, of a man who was fighting the best in the world, less than two years in.

Even that only takes you up to the Berbick fight or there about.

Are you really going to argue that Louis was not able to affect any improvement whatsoever after this fight, despite over a decade of fighting top contenders?

 

Check again my friend, the Rocks bottom touched the canvas, and as a pro

 

At least he was fighting the best available challenger in the world both times!

 

Totally agree

 

And what a sad statement on that era that both were geriatrics and one merely a great lightheavy who found the heavyweight division to be a smaller pond.

 

Nino Valdes?

 

Yeah twice caught of balance even got up and keep fighting without count!Tua was knocked by Savon and Rahman who were weak punchers!

 

Archie Moore?

 

Valdes was the number one end of year contender for

 

Valdes was the number one end of year ranking contender for 1953 and 1954=no title shot.