rocky marciano vs larry holmes

guys,seriously i respect every opinion. but are you serious? marciano was better than norton in every department and holmes never fought even a prime norton, past prime norton gave him a war. marciano was harder puncher ,he had more stamina,he had more heart, he was more durable,he had much better chin than norton, he was a great finisher, he had a hell of right hand.
if this fight go more than 13 rounds, holmes would be the victim of marciano in the rounds 14 and 15, too much pressure,too much stamina,too much heart. the key factor to beat holmes was stamina, good right hand,good chin, great heart, style of pressure. and it is = marciano. marciano would take every blow from holmes,no doubt in my mind.the only way to win of holmes is to run during all the fight to survive and to win by points. and no ****ing way holmes was too big, lmao, holmes was 6´3 and 209 pounds of skinny boxer, nothing muscular, marciano destroyed guys like Johnny Shkor,6´4 and 220 pounds.
(now you will say that holmes was much better ...) ok then you can say "larry holmes was very good" but you can not say "holmes was too big" because you can not compare 189 pounds of compact and solid man like a rock in 5´11 with 209 pounds of a skinny man in 6´3.(great boxer, but marciano was much stronger)

rocky is ridiculously underrated.

 

marciano and norton both did pressure against boxers, so the work would be the same. the key factor is.. norton took the jab of holmes so marciano would do as well.
past prime norton gave a war to holmes, marciano had better chin,more heart,more stamina, he was better finisher and he was harder puncher by far so marciano would do it better than norton

 

who hell are talking about shavers?

shavers had a glass chin, if quarry or lyle destroyed him , marciano might do it for sure,because he was more durable.shavers might not take the bombs of marciano, earnie shavers was just a hard puncher with no stamina,with glass chin and he was not a great finisher.
and please... tell me exactly what points are debatable...

marciano had better chin than norton ,more heart,more stamina, he was better finisher and he was harder puncher by far so marciano would do it better than norton debatable?

 

yes, but the key factor was not the 6´3 or the jab,frazier gave ali the hell too with his 5´11. and i never said that norton was similar to rocky, i said that holmes would have several problems with rocky, principally in the later rounds because rocky always did pressure and he was much harder puncher than norton with both hands, he had more stamina and he had by far better chin.
joe frazier would beat holmes as well.
funny because ali himself said that marciano would be the hardest rival for him for his style and ali said that marciano would beat holmes, ali said that rocky never stop and he could punch with both hands, larry holmes was a bad version of ali, with worse chin, worse footwork, worse chin, worse stamina, less speed.

 

marciano was not too fast to avoid his blows, but rocky had the chin to take the shots from shavers, simple, shavers might knock down rocky? of course.
shavers would ko marciano? i doubt seriously it. not even with a lucky punch, shavers might not finish the work, he was a bad finisher

 

atsch really i hope you are joking