rocky marciano vs larry holmes

Charles went 15 rounds without taking a nap or even being flooored and he gave Marciano a 3 inch cut on the left eye.
If a shopworn 6' 188lbs Charles could manage that explain why a 6'3" 215lbs prime Holmes couldn't?
Charles did not have Larry's size, durability, or jab.Talk us through why Holmes fails to survive where Ezzard did not!
42 years old Holmes goes the distance with Holyfield without being floored, but Rocky is putting a prime version of Holmes to sleep? GTF!!!

 

Charles was, even past his prime, a very amazing fighter imo. He wasn't Larry Holmes, of course.

 

An amazing fighter ,but not a top ten all time heavyweight as Holmes undoubtedly was.

 

As a great man once stated, "Marciano couldn't carry Holmes" jock.

At least not in a head to head sense. The ridiculous mental gymnastics being done here to bolster The Rock's chances are as hilarious as they are mystifying. Holmes had no stamina. All Holmes had was a jab. Marciano wasn't prime for Louis (when exactly was he prime? While getting shallacked by Walcott for 12 rounds? Against C*ckell?)... The list goes on and the heatry chuckles coming from this end are appreciated. A little humor certainly brightens the day.

 

I remember fairly recently there was (at last) an appreciative article on Holmes (wish I knew where to find it, sorry), and the article really harped upon the strikingly effective tool that was Larry's right hand (back in the day). He didn't start really stepping into it until after Norton (and often made the mistake of not bending at the waist more when he threw it), but it was at its best a startlingly fast, accurate, and wake-ya-the-hell-up punch.

I daresay the old one-two was done by Holmes better than practically any heavyweight before or since. His rights off the jab were extraordinary imo.

Never a one punch kayo artist (Weaver, Evangelista, Weaver II excepted), Larry's right hand was one of his best weapons.

 

As ive said about 5x now Holmes had more than just his jab in his game plan. He wouldn't need to use much more than the jab if old joe Louis was able to keep him at bay with his! I'm speaking plain English and yet you keep missing this part of my post!

 

Marciano must be the most hated man in boxing history if he’s being criticized for not knocking out a top ten p4p man sooner....shall we really go through the list of bums Holmes failed to KO? Let alone a top ten p4p fighter. Man had the highest KO percentage in hw champion history think he can be cut some slack for the one guy he didn’t KO the first time. And Marciano and Holyfield aren’t even comparable as far as power and styles goes.

 

Nope he is the most overated man in boxing history, but only when matching him with modern ,class big men of the last 50 years! Nobody here is saying Holmes was a dynamite puncher but some are saying nobody could take Marciano's power .I gave some examples of those that did and they didn't have to be anything special as far as class was concerned!
ps. It wasn't one guy he didn't ko .
ps . If he had fought Walcott over todays 12 rds distance Walcott would still have been champ when the final bell tolled!
Want to speculate how a 42 years old Rocky would have feared against prime Holyfield?lol

 

Nonsense.

Rocky was 37-0 and 28 years old againsy Louis. He fought for thr title and won the very next year, 4 fights later. You're telling me that wasn't a prime marciano?

Him being swollen and cut up and unable to do anything about an old joe Louis jab is exactly why he'd struggle. I feel like I'm teaching calculus to 2nd graders, nothing im saying should be confusing. The fact 38 year old shopworn versions of walcott and Louis bruised him and put on a jab clinic is all the more reason for me to believe a prime holmes woukd likely stop him with his razor sharp punches.

Marciano could fight on the outside? Lol, show me. Show me marciano outboxing a guy whose 6'3 with long arms and good ring IQ.

Holmes handled shavers non stop pressure for 12 rounds. Shavers was bigger and hit harder than marciano and didn't let up and Holmes put on a clinic. He stopped him in their rematch. Norton was a cagey guy who never stopped pressing forward and dug into the body and Holmes went 15 with him. A 42 year old holmes outboxed a prime iron chinned 6'1 228 pound ray Mercer over 12, he made him look like an amateur. Going the distance with a wild swinging 68' reach marciano who lacked defense and head movement would be childs play. Holmes had incredible stamina and a granite chin.

 

Probably not good. Swarmer/pressure fighters have much shorter careers.

 

Tiny 185lbs ones have even shorter careers when they are facing PRIME 6'3" 215 pounders who can move ,box ,and punch.

 

Your ignorance in calling Marciano prime against Louis proves you know very little of the man. He started boxing very late and technically speaking was a FAR different fighter come the walcott fight. Hell in the Louis fight the announcers even state Marciano at this stage of his career did not perfect his crouch and lean yet. His left wasn’t as good as would later get (although he did knock down Louis with a left at one point it wasn’t a consistently used weapon at that point). And don’t compare the great Marciano with Shavers...it’s embarrassing. Marciano’s career was short lived and he wouldn’t have bode well in his late 30s because he’d lose his best asset. That would be his stamina. Holmes never fought anyone close to Marciano and the one 5”10 guy he did fight with power knocked him out in 4...although I don’t **** on him for that he was old and had a lot of ring rust don’t tell me he would kill Marciano because that’s absurd.

 

He woudnt kill Marciano ,but he would beat him ,and by stoppage imo.

 

Shifting the goal posts and ignoring my question for the 3rd time now, we're done here.

 

Your question was answered already the first time. You just choose to ignore the response with “answer the question”.