Rocky Marciano vs Lennox Lewis

What is the minimum standard of puncher?

Based off the Lennox listing...

For Ali...you could add Powell, Lavorante, Clark (91% KO ratio), Chuvalo, Jones, Mathis..etc all rated contenders at various points as well.

 

Holyfield fought more multiples. Lewis only rewatched 3 opponents his whole career.

 

If Golota was a real heavy hitter like some of the men being discussed, Bowe wouldn't have made it out of the early rounds.

Shavers never lost like Briggs did to Wilson, a fighter stopped 7 times but took everything he had and out slugged him.

Oh come on...Bowe took lots and lots of flush punches from Evander...far more than Lewis...

 

:goodLove it!

 

He likes to fluculate with his picks.:hey

 

Then that raises Holyfield's totals to 22 and Lewis's to 23.

 

That's because Lewis was the better over all fighter. My position isn't that Lewis had the best chin in history, not even close, my positon is that it's a fallacy to use that as an argument about why he would lose to other ATG's when you yourself has said he brings more, such as defense and offensive skills, to the table.

With any fighter, not just Lewis, you have to look at the whole package.

Swag, meanwhile starts threads saying Liston beats Lewis by KO, Frazier beats Lewis by KO, Marciano might beat Lewis by KO, Foreman beats Lewis by KO, and Holyfield beats Lewis by KO.

Which I dispute because his whole premise is that Lewis' chin is glass and that any and every ATG would KO him, which based on the evidence, you yourself have put forth, is pure nonsense. Whether some claim he fought the best punchers of all time is true or not, he certainly fought a number of bangers and won the vast majority of the time. This is indisputable.

Now whether he won these fights because of the quality of his chin, his defensive skills or his offensive skills is irrelevant, the point is he found a way to win, and he was hit plenty enough that his chin was tested throughout his career and for the most part held up well.

 

Do you think that Marciano had greater one-punch power than Rahman?

Since when did McCall "knock Lewis dead"? Lewis was on his feet. In a previous era, the ref in that situation would have let the fight resume, without question.

 

and we're back to the chin argument once again, despite all the evidence to the contrary.

 

Given who you included on Lewis resume..

I would add Rodrigues and Savarese for Evander...

 

And I'm happy to inform you that you're not.

 

Rodriguez was a good boxer.. Criminally underrated in fact. Not really a puncher though. He could crack at times.. He had a ring worn James tillis on the canvas around the time that everyone and their brother was stopping him but couldn't finish the job.. Savsrese is a fair call, so to keep Lewis ahead I might throw in Levi billups... Lol.. Jk