Rocky Marciano vs Lennox Lewis

Guess you've answered the question.

 

You care to name the fighters better who he beat?

And you get a demerit for the first 30 times you say Cleveland Williams.

 

1. So you meant a literal hard on, and not proverbial. You got issues.

2. Morrison, Grant, Briggs, blind Mason, fat Tua, not great, cardiac arrest Golota, a bunch of lugs.

Foreman, Liston, Frazier, Norton,...great fighters who could punch, all prime or close. Overall, Ali fought a larger number of fighters considered to be dangerous punchers

 

Yeah..but when we say Morrison and Briggs were not great fighters, poor finishers, with awful stamina...it is the reality.

What's funny is outside of the times Lewis got put out on his back by men not previously known for one punch power..

Little Holyfield and his precision punching hurt Lewis more than most of these supposed big punchers, putting him on wobbly legs in round 7 of the rematch.

 

Who the fukk did Michael Grant ever knock out to bestow upon him this huge punching power you seem to attribute to him?

Liston razed a virtual division whereas Grants only stoppages of note were Golota (who was beating the **** out of Grant before dogging it) and, and...that's about it.

Grant was **** and I'd be shocked if Liston didn't knock him out in a round or two despite the height disadvantage. If Dominick Guinn could why not Sonny Liston who could actually fight?

The facts are if they were 6ft 4+, fought post 1990 and featured a 6 pack you go all girlish and attribute hitherto unseen punching power and fighting abilities unto them.

Oh and Earnie Shavers did stop Ken Norton, Jimmy Ellis, Henry Clark, Jimmy Young etc...he was an actual contender for all his faults. Your comparison with Butterbean is yet another one of your hyperbolic and frankly bullsh*t statements that you make with a tedious and monotonous regularity.

 

Speaking of Holyfield, can we really say Lewis is proven against more punchers than him.

Bowe×3
Lewis×2
Foreman
Tyson×2
Moorer×2
Stewart×2
Rahman
Cooper
Dokes
Thomas
Douglas
Sultan

 

Some might say Briggs had him in more trouble. Bruno shook him with a big right in the 3rd which would have dropped a lot of men. Tucker landed a lot of leather in the 8th or 9th. Mercer obviously. All hit harder than Holyfield.

Little Holyfield landed an even harder, flush left hook about a minute later which had little effect on Lewis. For comparisons sake the same left hook little Holyfield dropped Bowe heavily with and the same little Holyfield which ruined a Tyson who was meant to hospitilize him.

Another point is I think Lewis had little respect for Holyfields power like he did some other men he fought.

 

No.. I meant it proverbially.. It was you who said you're always hard.

Again, selective bias. Mind if I give it a try? Ahem.... Fat old sonny liston who had fought one round in two years and quit in his corner.. Shavers who regularly gassed midway through fights and was beaten by Bob stallings. Foster who's best win was a geriatric gun shot wound survivor. How did I do?

Norton isn't generally classified by most as a "puncher" or certainly not a great one. Liston was on the decline.. Frazier was prime for the first fight but not the last two, and was more of a pressure fighter who beat guys through attrition if truth be told.. Yes it was still a great list, but if we're just making a list of men who could punch, I still say Lewis takes the cake in terms of volume.

 

Not really.. It's true that he faced a comparable list of hitters, but unlike Lewis he also lost to a fair number of them whereas Lewis generally destroyed a lot of punchers.. BTW, I'm surprised you bothered to list Douglas ( more of a boxer really ) considering that every time that fight comes up you regularly comment on how fat and useless Buster was for that match. Sir Bert Cooper is also a regular object of your ridicule. And Ibragimov wasn't a puncher either really.

 

You keep commenting on Lewis fighting washed up punchers.. Aside from Tyson and Holyfield, who was washed up? You do realize that Lennox was actually "older" than several of the punchers he faced right?