I think it was more than 2 actually. Even his own brother mentioned how clumsy and awkward he could get even when he had more than 10 pro fights under his belt. It took a long time for him to get proper balance, leverage, and timing, and even when he was champ he could still get wild.
Which fights did he throw 80+ punches a round,for 15 rds? That gives a total of1200 punches thrown by one man. The records for both punches thrown and landing in a heavyweight fights, are as follows. Ibeabuchi landed 332 of 975 punches, and Tua landed 282 of 755 punches. They combined to throw 1,730 punches, which set the CompuBox record for punches thrown in a heavyweight fight. Ibeabuchi also set the individual record for punches thrown by a heavyweight. Two men combined threw 1730 setting the record,and you are saying Marciano was capable of, and did throw.1,200 on his own in fights? POINT EMPHATICALLY REFUTED!
No,Tyson was fighting modern sized heavyweights in their prime, not old exlhvy's and past prime heavies having their last fights. You cannot read! weight age height Tubbs 24-1-0 238lbs 30 yrs 6 3 Tucker 34-0-0 221lbs 29yrs 6 5 Biggs 15-0-0 229lbs 26 yrs 6 5 Seldon 33- 3-0 221lbs 31yrs 6 1 1/2 Bruno 32-2-2 228lbs 27 yrs 6 3 Williams 22-2-2 219lbs 29 yrs 6 4 Ruddock 25-1-1 228lbs 27 yrs 6 3 Ribalta22-3-1 213lbs 32 yrs 6 5 Stewart 26-1-0 218lbs 25 yrs 6 3 Spinks 31-0-0 212lbs 31 yrs 6 2 1/2 Smith 19-5-0 233lbs 33yrs 6 4* At 33 the oldest of this bunch 3 undefeated .6 held versions of the title,19 losses between them,262 wins between them. My statement is proven, and you have what comes out of a chicken's arse on your face! You're staying out of it? As if you could !!!! Moth-Flame Flame--- Moth LOL. NB Holmes was 38 when he came out of retirement to fight Tyson.
Here’s a stat for u. Average age of opponents Marciano 29.8 Tyson 29.9 Wow not what u we’re expecting… By the way only two names on that list are even worth mentioning in Bruno and Spinks. Being undefeated after 1980 means absolutely zilch. Fighters r so protected today over the last several decades it’s a joke.
The names I posted were modern sized heavyweights in their primes.My point is proven I put up eleven of them . I didnt bother to count either Ruddock or Bruno twice,I didn't need to! Now post your modern sized heavyweights ,in their primes that Marciano faced. And please no Shkor's or Jackson's! I could have included the Sammy Scaff's,but confined myself to good/ ranked heavyweights with long winning records. Tell you what ,since you have trouble absorbing he written word ,I'll simplify it a bit. Name 3 good.modernsized heavyweights i n their prime that Marciano beat? Difficult? Make that 2. Still too difficult ? How about 1? Marciano's challengers Lastarza 27 Moore 41/39 Charles33 &34 Walcott 38 Todays fighters are protected? Like Lastarza and Mathews weren't? lol Rockista Rimmers R Us. LOL
Ur such a fraud u even left off Don C because he was over 200 and prime. My initial point was directed at ur assertion that he all out of prime guys and LHWs. Now that ur caught on the bs u can’t even admit their opponents were of the same age. Modern size means nothing. U say it like it’s an accomplishment. this is a sport of skill not determined by the scale. Marciano beat his version of modern HWs where they all fought using the same workout methods. They were all lighter because of diet and different training methods. Even the heavier ones would be the lightest in the division today.
I left off Cockell 27 because he was not prime and neither was he good, he was a fat lhvy who had no business being in there.His prime was as a Euro level Lhvy . " Whatever happens don't you stop it" .Cockell to his manager just before the first bell. "Why am I even fighting this guy? " Marciano Learn to read properly.
I say modern sized mean men around 6 ft 3 in and over ,who are 212 /240 without being fat. Modern sized does not mean a five feet ten ex lhvy whose metabolism changed after a bout of glandular fever and left him over 200lbs with 3 rolls of fat around his belly and an arse and legs like Happy Humphrey McBride. Nor does it mean 2 aging lhvy's 5 'ft 11in and 6ft scaling188lbs, or a 192lbs 6ft, 38 years old man 1 fight away from retirement. Nor a 6ft 185lbs,punchless, protected fighter who dodged all the iron in his division his whole career. YOU AND LASTARZA DO HAVE SOMETHING IN COMMON. YOU ARE BOTH GOOD DODGERS. HE OF DANGEROUS HEAVYWEIGHTS. YOU OF DANGEROUS QUESTIONS! LOL
I and at least 1-2 other people tried having this conversation with him. Rocky fans are physically incapable of admitting he faced few prime skilled opponents and even fewer modern sized opponents.
I just rewatched the Tyson vs Mathis Jr fight in case I missed something, Tyson was never down in that fight. Rocky didn't drop Joe Louis, Ezzard Charles, Archie Moore or Harry Matthews in 3 rounds, not even for a flash knockdown. None of whom, even at their absolute peaks were as durable as Tyson. There's no historical record of Tyson even being flash knocked down by round 3. Plus, Rocky would be missing alot of the punches being thrown. There is historical record of say, Lennox Lewis being stopped by single flush shots. So because that actually happened twice IRL, would it be realistic to think that Rocky KO's Lewis?
Malik Abdul Aziz would have an advantage early in the fight but if he doesn’t stop Marciano quickly it’s going to be hell on wheels for him.